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MONTGOMERY TOWNSHIP PLANNING BOARD, MONTGOMERY TOWNSHIP, SOMERSET COUNTY, NEW JERSEY.
IT'S OUR REGULAR MEETING OF JUNE 8TH, 2026. IT IS OUR INTENTION TO CONCLUDE THIS MEETING ABSOLUTELY NO LATER THAN 10 P.M. AND THE TIME RIGHT NOW IS 702. AND UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT AND P.L. 2025 C 72 NOTICE OF THE TIME AND PLACE OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN POSTED IN THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING AND ON THE MUNICIPAL WEBSITE. SHERRY.
ROLL CALL PLEASE. CHAIR. CAMPUS HERE. VICE CHAIR. MAHONEY. YEAH. BATTLE. BLODGET. CONN. ROBERTS.
HERE. SINGH. HERE. SCHULDINER. YOU HAVE THIS BACKWARDS ON THE. YEAH. USUALLY. SOMETIMES IT'S.
YES. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. I SEE BEFORE US. TAYLOR. TODD. HERE. GLOCKLER HERE. SHARMA HERE. AND CASEY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SALUTE THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. WE DO RESPECTFULLY ASK MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS TO FIVE MINUTES. AND WHEN PROVIDING COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR AN APPLICATION, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD. IF YOU PREFER NOT TO PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE ADVISE WHICH MUNICIPALITY YOU LIVE IN. WE NOW HAVE OUR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OPEN. ANYONE WANT TO TALK? NOPE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
[IV. RESOLUTION]
OUR NEXT ITEM, THEN, IS A RESOLUTION. IT'S CASE PB DASH 01-25. THE APPLICANT IS PICCOLO LLC, BLOCK 3005, LOTS 11, 14, 16, AND 20 ON ROUTE 206. IT'S A MINOR SUBDIVISION WITH THE VARIANCE. AND IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. ROLL CALL PLEASE. SHERRY. CAMPUS. YES. CON. YES. MONEY. YES. ROBERT. YES.SCHULDINER. YES. SINGH. YES. AND SHARMA. YES. THANK YOU. THANKS, SHERRY. OKAY. NEXT ITEM
[V. ORDINANCE RECOMMENDATION]
IS AN ORDINANCE RECOMMENDATION. AND, SHERRY, DO YOU WANT TO. YEAH. SO THIS THIS ORDINANCE WILL AMEND CHAPTER 16, THE 1.5 SECTION FOR PROHIBITED USES AND THE DEFINITION SECTION TO INCLUDE DATA CENTERS AND DETENTION CENTERS. SO THEY WILL BE BOTH WILL BE PROHIBITED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE MONTGOMERY TOWNSHIP. SO I, I HAD A QUESTION ON THIS WHEN I READ IT.OKAY. THE DEFINITION OF A DETENTION CENTER WOULD SEEM TO MATCH THE JAIL THAT'S ON THE OTHER END OF THIS BUILDING. SO I'M WONDERING, COULD IT BE A FEDERAL IS THERE NO CARVE OUT FOR OUR OWN JAIL, WHICH WE'RE NOW MAKING ILLEGAL? THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT STRUCK ME AS KIND OF LIKE, THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. I KNOW WENDY AND I HAD SPOKEN ABOUT THAT, AND I THOUGHT WE MADE IT SO THAT IT WAS MORE OF A STANDALONE TYPE OF FACILITY, BUT I'M LOOKING I READ IT OVER A BUNCH OF TIMES AND IT IT DIDN'T APPEAR TO EXCLUDE OUR OWN POLICE JAIL. RELATED RELATED COMMENT TO THAT IS THAT IS THAT GOING FORWARD OR PREEXISTING ANYTHING IS I MEAN, IF IT IS LIKE GOING FORWARD, IT'S PROHIBITED VERSUS PREEXISTING IS, IS, IS OKAY. WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PREEXISTING. I MEAN, EXCEPT FOR WHAT THEY USE AS A HOLDING CELL. SO. WE'LL HAVE TO. DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, KAREN, OF ADDING IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE THE CARDBOARD, RIGHT? IF IT'S ONLY GOING FOR IS THIS RIGHT? IS THIS. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, I AGREE. ALRIGHT.
COULD IT BE WHAT ABOUT IF THE WORD EXCLUSIVELY WHERE IT SAYS DETENTION CENTER IS COMMONLY KNOWN IS A BUILDING OR SPECIALIZED FACILITY ESTABLISHED AND MAINTAINED, PRIVATE OR EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE PURPOSE, SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO SAY OUTSIDE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, IF YOU WANT TO SOMEHOW OUTSIDE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT COULD WORK.
OTHERWISE, WE DON'T WANT TO TWEAK IT TOO MUCH. WELL, THAT'S WHY IF WE SAID IT'S IT'S A BUILDING THAT IS EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE PURPOSE, OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT. RIGHT. THAT'S A POLICE.
ALTHOUGH THE FACILITY WOULD BE EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE PURPOSE. RIGHT. SO I KNOW, BUT IT'S PART
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OF IT'S IT'S PART OF THE POLICE STATION, RIGHT? YES. WITHIN THE STATION, IN A PORTION OF IT, THERE ARE SOME HOLDING CELLS. RIGHT. BUT THEN I THINK WE SHOULD BE VERY SPECIFIC TO THE POLICE STATION, BECAUSE IF WE START, YOU KNOW, BEING VAGUE, THEN IT GETS A LITTLE RIGHT.BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE A I MEAN, I KNOW THE INTENT OF THIS, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE A FEDERAL FACILITY THAT'S BUILT THAT HAS MULTIPLE PURPOSES, ONLY ONE OF WHICH WOULD BE THE ONE YOU'RE TRYING TO EXCLUDE. RIGHT? RIGHT. WHAT IF THEY DECIDED TO ADD IN A MINI MART OR SOMETHING? SO I THINK IF YOU SAY OUTSIDE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULDN'T THAT.
YEAH. LOCAL ADDRESS YOUR POINT THAT THIS PUTS THIS IN A JAPANESE RIGHT AND OUTSIDE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHATEVER MONTGOMERY POLICE, WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION THE BOARD WANTS OUTSIDE MONTGOMERY POLICE DEPARTMENT. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LEGAL THIS IS TO BEGIN WITH.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT QUESTION. WHETHER WHETHER A MUNICIPALITIES USE ORDINANCES WOULD BE ENFORCEABLE ON A FEDERAL FACILITY OR EVEN A STATE FACILITY. I MEAN, I REMEMBER HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TOWNSHIP ATTORNEY BACK WHEN WE WERE BUILDING THIS BUILDING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE OF THE CONTROL OF HOW THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT, PART OF IT'S MUNICIPAL, PART OF IT'S COUNTY. SO I, I MEAN, LOOK AT THIS POINT, THE ATTORNEY HAS SAID THAT WE CAN PASS THIS ORDINANCE WHERE IT'S GOING TO END UP. WHO KNOWS? BUT IF WE IF WE ARE SPECIFIC TO MONTGOMERY POLICE DEPARTMENT, MAYBE THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WE JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I, I'M, I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH THE CARVE OUT SO THAT WE CAN. YEAH. WHEN THE POLICE BRING SOMEBODY IN THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE CUSTODY OVER, THEY HAVE A PLACE TO DO THAT. AND THEN THEY SAY, THIS PLACE IS NOT AN ILLEGAL POSITION RIGHT NOW. EXACTLY. OR, I MEAN, LET'S BE POLITICAL HERE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LOOK, THE TOWNSHIP HAS SOMETHING THAT MADE THEIR OWN JAIL ILLEGAL. I MEAN, THAT JUST IS NOT WHAT YOU PROBABLY WANT IN THE NEWSPAPER. RIGHT. SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT, YES, IT CONFORMS WITH THE MASTER PLAN, BUT YOU SUGGEST THAT MONTGOMERY TOWNSHIP POLICE.
YEAH. POLICE FOR. ALL RIGHT. SO AFTER AFTER THE WORD FACILITY IS THAT EVERYONE'S SUGGESTION THAT WE ADD THE WORDS. IT HAS TO BE MONTGOMERY POLICE DEPARTMENT. I THINK IT SHOULD BE VERY SPECIFIC. OR CAN YOU JUST EXCLUDE THIS PARCEL FROM THE ORDINANCE WITH THE EXCEPTION EVERYWHERE IN TOWN, EXCEPT FOR THIS PARCEL, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MONTGOMERY, WHATEVER THE BLOCK AND LOT NUMBER OF THIS PARCEL IS, RIGHT? YEAH. TOWNSHIP. YOU DO IT THAT WAY TOO. MAYBE SOME OF YOU PUT IT ON THE COUNTY SIDE OF IT. HOLD ON, HOLD ON. LET'S LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT. TONY, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, I HAD A COMMENT ON A DIFFERENT ISSUE HERE. AND THAT IS. THERE WASN'T A VERY, IN MY MIND, A VERY GOOD DEFINITION OF THE SCALE OF DATA CENTERS. YOU KNOW, BLOOMBERG HAS A PRETTY GOOD SET OF COMPUTERS IN THEIR BUILDINGS AND THEY HAVE. LINKAGE. AND THEY'RE I WORRY THAT THEY WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE. I, I THINK THAT I THINK SOME THOUGHT WAS GIVEN TO THAT. AND I THINK THAT MAY BE WHY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEFINITION, DATA CENTER MEANS A FACILITY, ONE WHOSE PRIMARY SERVICES. YEP. AND I THINK THAT BLOOMBERG WOULD SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, OUR PRIMARY SERVICE IS NOT TO RUN A DATA CENTER THAT'S SECONDARY OR ACCESSORY SERVICE TO WHAT WE DO, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION AND, AND ANALYSIS. SO I THINK PERHAPS THAT'S WHY THAT WORD PRIMARY WAS ADDED IN THERE TO, TO. AND NOT ONLY THAT, I THINK, TONY, I MEAN, IT IS PROBABLY LOOKING AT THE BIG QUOTE UNQUOTE, BIG DATA CENTERS WHOSE DEMANDS FOR POWER AND WATER IS. THAT'S RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I THINK TONY'S POINT IS, WOULD THAT GET ROLLED INTO THIS? YES. SO EXCUSE ME, CAN YOU FINISH READING THE DESCRIPTION OF THE DATA CENTER? YEAH. OKAY. SO DATA CENTER MEANS A FACILITY, ONE WHOSE PRIMARY SERVICES ARE THE STORAGE, MANAGEMENT AND PROCESSING OF DIGITAL DATA. AND TWO THAT IS USED TO HOUSE. AND SO WE HAVE AND IT'S, ITS PRIMARY PURPOSE IS TO STORE AND MANAGE DIGITAL DATA. AND IT'S USED TO HOUSE COMPUTER AND NETWORK SYSTEMS, ASSOCIATED COMPONENTS, SERVERS, NETWORK EQUIPMENT, APPLIANCES, TELECOMMUNICATION DATA STORAGE, INTERNET RELATED. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. SO I THINK IN SUPPORT OF THAT PRIMARY USE IN SUPPORT OF THE PRIMARY. YEAH, THE THOUGHT WAS THAT WAY. A COMPANY LIKE BLOOMBERG. AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S FIRST THOUGHT IS, OH, WHAT ABOUT BLOOMBERG?
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BUT I DON'T THINK BLOOMBERG WOULD CLAIM THAT THEIR PRIMARY SERVICE. YEAH. THEY'RE NOT A DATA CENTER. YEAH. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESSES IN TOWN THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY FIT THAT DEFINITION? MAYBE IN WALL STREET SOMEWHERE. YOU KNOW, THAT THAT DOES HAPPENS TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT AI PEOPLE WOULD DO. BUT BUT SMALL SCALE, YOU KNOW, SCALE IS THE ISSUE HERE, RIGHT? IT'S THE HUGENESS THAT WE OBJECT TO. AND YET THAT WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ADDRESSED THE ISSUE OF SCALE. WELL, I'M NOT I MEAN, HONESTLY, I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE SCALE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ELECTRICITY AND WATER A FACILITY CAN USE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW EASY IT WOULD BE FOR THE TOWN TO DEFINE A SCALE BASED ON WHAT? LIKE WHAT'S TOO BIG, WHAT'S SMALL.SO BECAUSE I THINK EVEN A SMALL DATA CENTER IS GOING TO USE AN A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY. YEAH. AND, AND, AND THE WATER ISSUES. SO I THINK REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE, IF ITS PRIMARY USE AS A DATA CENTER, I THINK IT WOULD APPLY HERE. ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK IT SHOULD APPLY HERE BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S ALL ABOUT PROPORTION. YEAH. BUT TYPICALLY THE BIG DATA CENTERS WHERE YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT VIEW THOUGHT WHETHER IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED OR NOT ALLOWED IS TYPICALLY CHARACTERIZED BY SIZE VERY MUCH, OF COURSE. YEAH, VERY MUCH CHARACTERIZED. AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON HUGE PARCELS. I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE LARGE WAREHOUSE TYPE BUILDINGS. YEAH. SO. IF THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT IS TO PROHIBIT THAT USE IN OUR TOWN, I'M HONESTLY, I'M NOT EVEN SURE WE'VE GOT THAT MUCH ZONING TO BEGIN WITH THAT WOULD PERMIT FOR THAT ANYHOW. YEAH. I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT, THAT WOULD BE A, AN INDUSTRIAL USE AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE INDUSTRIAL ZONING HERE. WE HAVE VERY LIMITED INDUSTRIAL ZONING. AND IT'S NOT THAT BIG. THOSE PARCELS AREN'T BIG ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE WE DEALT WITH THE SAME THING. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE AT THE CANNABIS. YES. RIGHT.
REMEMBER, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT CANNABIS, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE PARCELS BIG ENOUGH TO GROW BECAUSE IT GROWS INDOORS OR PROCESS. WE JUST DOESN'T EXIST.
RIGHT? SO I MEAN, BUT WE KNOW THAT SOMEONE WAS TRYING TO DO THAT AT 23 ORCHARD AND. YES.
YEAH. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE REASON THE TOWNSHIP IS DOING THIS IS THERE ARE WAYS THAT, I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT KENVUE. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT ALLOWED. THAT'S ALL. I'M SORRY. AND THAT'S HOW I READ IT TOO. YES.
PRIMARY USAGE. PRIMARY USE. PRIMARY. RIGHT. BUT GOING BACK TO THE TO THE MONTGOMERY, RIGHT.
IF WE JUST ACT LIKE FOR MONTGOMERY POLICE USES WOULD BE EXCLUDED IN THE THE DETENTION CENTER. WELL, WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? BECAUSE THE ULTIMATE WORDING WILL LIE WITH THE GOVERNING BODY. IF THE PLANNING BOARD PASSES A MOTION SAYING YOU YOU FIND THIS COMPLIES WITH THE MASTER PLAN, BUT YOU RECOMMEND. YEAH. I RECOMMEND THAT LANGUAGE BE ADDED TO THE DEFINITION OF DETENTION CENTER TO ACCEPT OUT OR EXCLUDE THE MONTGOMERY TOWNSHIP POLICE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN HOWEVER, GOVERNING BODY WANTS TO WORD IT. THEY CAN DO THAT.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. HELP ME CLARIFY THAT. OKAY. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO THAT'S MY CLARIFICATION. WHEN YOU SAY EXCLUSIVELY MONTGOMERY POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT WILL ALSO EXCLUDE COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT? THEY DON'T HAVE A JAIL.
THEY DON'T HAVE A JAIL HERE. I DON'T THINK THAT THEY CAN THEY GET IN OR THEY CAN MAKE USE OF OUR FACILITY. THEY DON'T PUT PRISONERS HERE. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN JAIL. OKAY. UP IN SOMERVILLE. RIGHT. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE HOLD THEM HERE TEMPORARILY, THEN WE TAKE THEM UP. THERE IS WHAT HAPPENS SO THEY DON'T COME BACK. OKAY. THE COUNTY LOCKUP? YEP. OKAY.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND? THAT THE TO THE TOWNSHIP COMMITTEE THAT THE ORDINANCE IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE MASTER PLAN, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE WORDING THAT KAREN JUST JUST ADDED REGARDING MONTGOMERY TOWNSHIP POLICE. SO MOVED. SECOND. ROLL CALL PLEASE. CAMPUS. YES. CON. YES. MONEY. YES. ROBERTS. YES. SCHULDINER.
YES. SINGH. YES. TAYLOR. TOD. YES. GLÖCKLER. YES. AND. SHARMA. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU.
[VI. MINUTES ]
SHERRY. NEXT ITEM IS THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 11TH, 2026 REGULAR MEETING. MARVIN. ANY CORRECTIONS? NOPE. OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ROLL CALL PLEASE. YES. YES. CON. YES. MONEY. YES. ROBERTS. YES. SCHULDINER. YES. SINGH. YES.[00:15:07]
AND SHARMA. YES. OKAY. AND THEN WE HAVE THE MINUTES TO THE CLOSED SESSION, WHICH HOPEFULLY EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED. SECOND. ROLL CALL PLEASE. SHERRY. CAMPUS. YES. CON. YES. MONEY. YES. ROBERTS. YES. SCHULDINER. YES. SINGH.[VII. SITE PLAN/SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE REPORT ]
YES. AND. SHARMA. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY UPDATE FROM THE SITE PLAN SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE THIS MEETING. SO WE WILL I CAN IF YOU WANT. I CAN GIVE YOU A VERY. SO AT THE LAST SITE PLAN SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MEETING, BLOOMBERG CAME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE. THEY WANT TO INSTALL WALKING PATHS ON THEIR PROPERTY. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REVIEW MEMO WAS SIDEWALK ALONG ROUTE 518. THEY'RE GOING TO CONSIDER IT, AND THEY ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO THE SITE PLAN SUBDIVISION. SO THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SCHEDULED FOR PLANNING BOARD YET. SO THEY ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR MOST LIKELY. IF THE ISSUE CAN GET RESOLVED, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUST COME DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD, BUT IT MIGHT GO BACK TO SITE PLAN SUBDIVISION. OKAY. THANKS, JERRY. I IF YOU DON'T MIND. YEAH. BECAUSE I'M THE LIAISON TO THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK, SO I CAN GIVE. THAT'S GREAT. YEP. THERE WASN'T A HUGE AMOUNT OF THINGS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE PAUL UPDATE. THAT'S WHY I SAID WE HAD IT. RIGHT. RIGHT.PLEASE GO AHEAD. SO I THINK THE THE MAIN THING OF NOTE, AT LEAST FOR THIS BODY, IS THAT THE LOOP ROADS AT THE INTERSECTION OF 206 AND 518 WILL BE OPENING OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO. AND THERE'S THERE'S BEEN A START OF AN EDUCATION PROCESS. YOU PROBABLY SAW IT IN THE NEWSPAPER. THERE WILL BE SOCIAL MEDIA, SOCIAL MEDIA. THERE'LL BE SIGNS OUT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS ARE GOING TO BE CHANGING. THE THOUGHT WAS THAT WE WOULD LEAVE SOME OF THE EXISTING TURNS IN PLACE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, SO THAT IF PEOPLE MISS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY NEED TO MAKE THE TURN, THEY STILL HAD A SECOND CHANCE TO TURN 18. SO THE LEFT TURN FROM 518 TO 206, WHICH IS GOING AWAY, WOULD REMAIN FOR A LITTLE BIT. ALSO, THE LEFT TURN FROM 206 SOUTH ON THE 518 WEST RIGHT TOWARDS HOPEWELL. BECAUSE IF YOU MISS WELL YOU GET A SECOND CHANCE AT VILLAGE. YEAH. BUT STILL. YEAH I GET IT THERE.
THERE IS ONE ISSUE THAT WE'RE THAT DOES NOT REALLY RESOLUTION ON ABOUT OPENING VILLAGE DRIVE BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER STILL NEEDS ACCESS TO THE KIND OF THE ROADWAY OR REALLY THE SIDEWALK, BECAUSE THE SIDEWALKS ARE NOT VERY WIDE OVER THERE TO FINISH BUILDING THAT BUILDING OR DO SOME STUFF TO THE X TO THE OUTSIDE OF IT. EXTERIOR. YEAH. WE WERE TALKING A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS ABOUT HOW WE COULD MAYBE OPEN THE ROAD, MAYBE ONE DIRECTION OR WHAT TO DO WITH THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. THERE SEEMS TO BE ENOUGH ROOM, THOUGH, BETWEEN WHERE THE CURB IS AND WHERE THE BUILDING IS 30FT. SO. IF YOU PUT IF YOU HAVE THE SIDEWALK THERE NOW YOU'RE PROBABLY DOWN TO ABOUT 20FT BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE AREA BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE SIDEWALK AND THE SIDEWALK ITSELF. SO. IT'LL GET OPEN. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW, HOW, HOW, HOW IT GETS PHASED AND HOW IT GETS OPENED. SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS PROBABLY THE ONE THING OF NOTE THAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO THIS BODY. THAT'S THE CONNECTION POINT THAT THEY WERE BUILDING. IT'S ONE OF THE CONNECTOR. IT'S ONE OF THE MAIN CONNECTOR ROADS. IT'S LIKE THE LINCHPIN OF, OF, OF, OF EVERYTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE. YEAH, THOSE ARE THE TWO. BUT I THINK THE FIRST ONE THAT'LL PROBABLY OPEN WILL BE BALTIMORE CORNER, WHICH IS THE KIND OF THE JUGHANDLE, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT, THAT GOES INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER. THAT'LL PROBABLY BE THE FIRST ONE TO OPEN. SO MARVIN THE ROAD, THE LAST PIECE CONNECTOR COMING OUT OF THE VILLAGE SHOPPER, DOES THAT REQUIRE STATE APPROVAL? LIKE NO FIRST CONNECTOR ROAD DID? WELL, I THINK EVERYTHING EVERYTHING'S APPROVED BY THE STATE FOR THAT. THEY'VE ALREADY YEAH. HE ALREADY MADE THOSE 206 IMPROVEMENTS ALREADY. THAT WAS ALL DONE YEARS AGO. YEAH. SO HE JUST NEEDS TO I MEAN, THAT THAT SECTION JUST NOT PAVED AT THIS POINT. IT IT AS IF TODAY IT WAS FLATTENED. AT LEAST IT WAS FLATTENED. OKAY. THEY'RE WORKING ON IT. THEY'RE PUTTING GRAVEL DOWN. YEAH. IT WAS IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS GRADED TODAY. THERE'S ALSO AN ISSUE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT THEY'RE TURNING THE ROAD OVER, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY OPEN, THIS IS STILL A PRIVATE ROAD. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THOSE ISSUES. SO YEAH, THEY'LL TURN THE ROAD OVER ONCE SO IT'LL GET WORKED OUT. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, DETAILS. AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS. SO BUT YOU'LL, YOU'LL, WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF, I
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THINK WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC RELIEF THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION ONCE ALL THESE ROADS OPEN UP. SO THAT'S THE HOPE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S 120 FOOT SECTION. IT'S ALWAYS THE LAST MILE THAT IT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE. YEP. THE MOST DIFFICULT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE REPORTS. VERY GOOD. OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO CLOSED[Additional Item]
SESSION NOW. AND THIS IS THE MONTGOMERY TOWNSHIP PLANNING BOARD RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING OUR CLOSED SESSION. AND WHEREAS NJSA TEN COLON 4-12, THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETING ACT AUTHORIZES THIS BOARD TO EXCLUDE THE PUBLIC FROM THAT PORTION OF A MEETING AT WHICH THIS BOARD DISCUSSES CERTAIN MATTERS. WHEREAS THE BOARD IS ABOUT TO DISCUSS SUCH A MATTER, SPECIFICALLY LITIGATION PENDING AGAINST THE PLANNING BOARD, CAPTIONED ECON DEVELOPMENT CORP. CORP VERSUS THE TOWNSHIP OF MONTGOMERY PLANNING BOARD, WHERE THE BOARD ATTORNEY WILL BE GIVING LEGAL ADVICE, FALLING WITHIN THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE AND WHERE CONFIDENTIALITY IS REQUIRED. IN ORDER FOR THE BOARD ATTORNEY TO EXERCISE HER ETHICAL DUTIES AS AN ATTORNEY. WHEREAS, THE BOARD BELIEVES THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM THE DISCUSSION NOW. THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MONTGOMERY TOWNSHIP PLANNING BOARD THAT IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT THE GENERAL SCOPE OF THE DISCUSSION WILL BE DISCLOSED AND INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES OF THE OPEN SESSION OF THE BOARD MEETING, BUT THE SPECIFICS OF THE DISCUSSION WILL INVOLVE LEGAL ADVICE, SO WILL NOT BE DISCLOSED TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE LEGAL ADVICE FALLS WITHIN THAT ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I. I. I.EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE MEETING. SO MOVED.
SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR I OKAY, WE ARE REOPENED. CHERRY. WE WERE ON TV, I GUESS. ARE WE? YEAH. SHOULD BE. YEAH. MAYBE WE HAVE TO OPEN THE DOOR IN CASE THERE ARE PEOPLE WAITING OUTSIDE TO COME IN. I'M SURE THERE ARE THRONGS OF PEOPLE WAITING. YES, WE LOST MORE CHAIRS THAN WERE USED TONIGHT, SO. YEAH. OKAY, EVERYBODY, ARE WE UP? SHERRY? YEP. I'LL BE
[VIII. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ]
HERE. YEAH. OKAY. WELCOME BACK. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. WE HAVE THE HARLINGEN CNG SUBSTATION.WE HAVE GTP ACQUISITIONS, THRIVE AT MONTGOMERY, THE BLOOMBERG WALKING PATH AND THE 23 ORCHARD REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. FUTURE MEETINGS. AS OF TONIGHT, JUNE 22ND, WILL BE A PLANNING BOARD MEETING THAT WILL PROBABLY BE CANCELED. I DON'T HAVE ANY APPLICATIONS. OKAY.
YEAH. THE ONLY THING WOULD BE IF SOMETHING COMES FROM TOWNSHIP COMMITTEE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO. TIMEWISE. NOTHING'S GOING TO COME FROM TOWNSHIP, BUT PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE THE NEXT SCHEDULED SITE PLAN SUBDIVISION IS JULY 7TH, AND THAT'S AT 8:30 A.M.
AND THEN THAT MEANS OUR NEXT PLANNING BOARD WILL BE JULY 13TH AT 7 P.M. OKAY. WITH ALL THAT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND.
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