[I. ROLL CALL]
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IT IS, UH, SEVEN O'CLOCK WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED. ARE MULTITUDES OF MASSES. THIS IS THE MONTGOMERY TOWNSHIP PLANNING BOARD. UH, MONTGOMERY TOWNSHIP, SOMERSET COUNTY, NEW JERSEY. OUR REGULAR MEETING. OF APRIL 8TH 2024. IT IS OUR INTENTION TO CONCLUDE THIS MEETING NO LATER THAN 10 P.M. AND THE TIME RIGHT NOW IS 701. UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT NOTICE OF THE TIME AND PLACE OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN POSTED AND SENT TO THE OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED NEWSPAPERS. SHERRY HERE MONEY BATTLE. KEENAN. MATTHEWS. ROBERTS. SAYING.
LOCKER. YOU CON HERE? CASEY BAR. THANK YOU. OK, LET'S DO A SALUTE TO THE FLAG. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE WHAT. OK, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC
[IV. RESOLUTION ]
SO WE WILL NOT NEED PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. UH, FIRST ITEM IS A RESOLUTION. IT'S CASE PB DASH 01-24. THE APPLICANT IS R PM DEVELOPMENT LLC. IT'S UH, AMENDED. IT'S FOR BLOCK. UH, 20001 LOT 10.05 ON COMMUNITY DRIVE, AND IT IS IN AN AMENDED SITE PLAN TO ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT TO CONVERT THE EXISTING BASIN INTO A V RETENTION BASIN. I HAVE A MOTION TO MEMORIALIZE. SO MOVED TO SECOND. ROLL CALL, PLEASE, SIR. YES. YES AND YES, THANK YOU.HEY. THE NEXT THREE ITEMS ARE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THREE ORDINANCES AND THESE WOULD BE
[V. ORDINANCE RECOMMENDATIONS]
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WOULD VOTE ON, UH, TO RECOMMEND BACK TO THE TOWNSHIP COMMITTEE THAT THESE, UH, ORDINANCES ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR MASTER PLAN. SO FOR THE FIRST ORDINANCE, IT IS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. IT'S AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 16 LAND DEVELOPMENT. OF THE CODE OF THE TOWNSHIP OF MONTGOMERY, 1984 COUNTY OF SOMERSET STATE OF NEW JERSEY, NEW JERSEY, ADDING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PRIVATELY OWNED SALT STORAGE FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE MUNICIPAL STORMWATER REGULATION PROGRAM. REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH BY THE NEW JERSEY DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. ANY DISCUSSIONS, QUESTIONS. AND ONE FROM THE TOWNSHIP HAVE ANY COMMENTS. OKAY, THEN, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND UH, I SECOND WE DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. LOG IT MONEY. CAMPUS. YES YES AND, YES. THANK YOU. NEXT ONE IS A LAND DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. 24-1722 IS IT? IT IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 16 LAND DEVELOPMENT OF THE CODE OF THE TOWNSHIP OF MONTGOMERY, 1984 COUNTY OF SOMERSET STATE OF NEW JERSEY, UPDATING AND AMENDING THE REQUIREMENTS REQUIREMENTS FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HELLO, MAYOR. DISCUSSIONS. UM WE MAYBE WANT TO JUST DO A BRIEF UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THIS WILL RECOMMEND. WELL, THIS WILL UPDATE VARIOUS SECTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE TO BRING IT IN CONFORMANCE WITH TODAY'S RAINFALL STANDARDS. RATHER THAN THE PAST NUMBERS. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. IF THAT IS THE CASE, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND MOVED TO RECOMMEND ROLL CALL, PLEASE SHARING YES. MONEY. CAMPUS. YES.SING. YES, GLOCKLER. YES. AND YES, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SHERRY. THE THIRD ORDINANCE IS A LAND DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. 24-1723 IT IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING AND SUPPLEMENTING CHAPTER TWO OF THE CODE OF THE TOWNSHIP OF MONTGOMERY ENTITLED ADMINISTRATION CHAPTER 14 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWNSHIP OF MONTGOMERY ENTITLED SOIL AND SOIL REMOVAL IN CHAPTER 16 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWNSHIP OF MONTGOMERY ENTITLED LAND DEVELOPMENT OF THE CODE OF TOWNSHIP, MONTGOMERY. NOT ABOVE MONTGOMERY, 1984 COUNTY OF SOMERSET, NEW JERSEY. THIS IS IN FACT, THE TREE ORDINANCE. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSIONS? THOUGHTS ON THE RE ORDINANCE. I
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COULD JUST OFFER I I'D LIKE TO THANK THE TOWNSHIP. UH, COMMITTEE FOR HOSTING THE, UH, THE TOWN HALL TO GIVE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS, AND I SPECIFICALLY WANT TO THANK THE PROFESSIONALS FOR PUTTING TOGETHER SUCH A MEETING. I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING, BUT, UH, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT WENT INTO EXPLAINING THIS TO THE PUBLIC AND FOR US ON THE PLANNING BOARD AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WHILE I WAS NOT AT THAT, EITHER, I UNDERSTAND, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A LOT OF THOUGHTS. ABOUT THIS FROM THE PUBLIC FROM, YOU KNOW. WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AS A COMMUNITY BASED ON THE MODEL ORDINANCE AND THE STATE AT THE END OF THE DAY. IF EVERYBODY IS UNHAPPY, THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE. THAT'S RIGHT.THAT'S RIGHT AND II. I THINK IF I CAN JUST SAY A FEW WORDS, IT'S I THINK IT WAS A GOOD BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT IS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY AS CITIZENS, UM, NEW JERSEY, THE WHOLE WORLD AND AT THE SAME TIME , UM, ON THE BURDEN ON OUR RESIDENTS, SO I THINK WE CAME TO A GOOD COMPROMISE. I DEFINITELY HAVE TO SECOND PAUL BLODGET. UH, THE STAFF WAS AMAZING. I I'M BEYOND IMPRESSED WITH ALL THE RESEARCH THAT WAS DONE AS TO WHAT OTHER TOWNS ARE DOING, WHAT WE CAN DO, HOW WE CAN MAKE IT EASIER. WE ALSO WORKED IN A GRACE PERIOD. SO YES, I THINK A LOT OF, UH, WORKING WENT INTO IT . SO YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THE RESIDENTS SHOULD REALIZE THAT NOTHING IS JUST A STAMP. WE TAKE OUR TIME BEFORE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, LET SOMETHING HAPPEN. SO YEAH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU DID A LOT OF THE HEAVY LIFTING. SO YOU THINK THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY SO, UH, BASED ON THAT I THINK WE DO FIND THAT THIS IS A CONSISTENT WITH OUR MASTER PLAN. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND ONE SECOND ROLL CALL, PLEASE. YES. MONEY.
YES, YES. YES AND YES, THANK YOU. OUR LAST ITEM. ACTUALLY WE HAVE A, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO THE
[VI. NEW BUSINESS]
AGENDA IS THAT CORRECT? SO THIS IS ACTUALLY, UH THIS WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. THAT WOULD IN FACT, AUTHORIZE AND DIRECT. UH, OUR CONSULTANTS CLARK KEN HINT TO UNDERTAKE A PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATION IN CONNECTION WITH THE DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER THE PROPERTY DESIGNATED AS 4021, GENERALLY LOCATED AT SCARBOROUGH ROAD, SHOULD BE DECLARED A NON CONDEMNATION AREA IN NEED OF DEVELOPMENT PURSUANT TO NSA 40 A COLON 12 A DASH ONE. ET CETERA, ET CETERA. SO UH, DO I HAVE A, UH A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. AND IF WE DO ROLL CALL, MR. CHAIRMAN YES. YES, WE VOTE ON THIS. SHOULDN'T SOMEBODY EXPLAINED TO ME WHAT WHAT'S BEHIND THIS? WHY THIS IS ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE TOWN AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT MAY BE HELPFUL TO DEVELOPERS. SURE. UM TRY AND ANSWER THAT ONLY BECAUSE IT'S THE LAST HEARING. I BELIEVE THE TOWN ATTORNEY THE SAME QUESTION WAS RAISED. WHY WOULD THIS BE? POTENTIALLY THE MY RECOLLECTION IS THE COUNT OF ATTORNEY INDICATED THAT THIS SITE HAD REMAINED UNDEVELOPED. A LONG TIME, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS APPROVAL. AND, UH, THE TOWNSHIP.FELT THAT IF IT WERE DECLARED AN AREA IN NEED OF REDEVELOPMENT THAT THAT MIGHT BE AN INCENTIVE.
THE TO YOU'LL GET TO THEM. SITTING. SO THAT THAT'S YOU CAN. THE ATTORNEY WAS SPEAKING.
POINTING OUT THAT THIS HELPS US MEET. THAT'S THE BUILDING RIGHT HERE. NEXT DOOR HERE. HELP US GO A LONG WAY TOWARD BEATING THE COA REQUIREMENT. REQUIREMENTS AND NOW BEEN SATISFYING, AND I BELIEVE YOU. AND THEREFORE DOING THIS? NEAR THE BRIDGE OVER TO RAILROAD TRACKS. THE BENEFIT. WE DON'T NEED IT FOR MEETING UM IF THE DEVELOPER HAS FOUND NO GOOD REASON TO DEVELOP IT. IT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE THERE'S ECONOMIC REASONS. HASN'T BEEN TO HIS ADVANTAGE BY ECONOMIC TIMES WILL CHANGE AND EVENTUALLY HE'LL REBUILD IT, SO I DON'T KNOW. WHY? WHAT WHAT THE USE OF IT IS FOR US. WE COME 1ST AND 2ND. VERY GOOD POINT, BUT I THINK THIS MAYBE IF WE WANNA HAVE, UH,
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WENDY GO INTO THE DETAILS OF IT, BUT SHE'S NOT HERE AND I CAN HAVE THE TOWNSHIP ATTORNEYS AS TO WHY WE WANNA VOTE. TONY, CAN I JUST TO CLARIFY WE WILL GET TO ADJUDICATE THAT WHEN THE SHOW THAT THANK YOU, PAUL. A LOT OF MONEY TO GET THEM. YEAH, BUT STATUTE. THE TOWNSHIP. THIS.THIS IS THEIR PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHETHER SOMETHING SHOULD BE DESIGNATED. WE NEED IT MUST BE REFERRED TO THE PLAN. HAVING BEEN THE PLANNING BOARDS OF OBLIGATIONS. DO THAT. ONE PART OF THE INVESTIGATION IS TO HAVE THE BOARD C NOT PREPARED. ASK QUESTIONS. ON THE PLANNING BOARD WILL DECIDE WHAT IS THEIR RECOMMENDATION. AT THAT POINT THE HE'S CONCERNED YOU HAVE THAT . YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT TIME TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. BUT YOU JUST DESCRIBE INVOLVES SPENDING SUBSTANTIAL FUNDS WITH PLANNERS AND ET CETERA. TO PREPARE ALL THIS TO WHAT END? YOU CAN'T JUST WELL, LET'S JUST FIND OUT YOUR SATISFY OUR CURIOSITY. THAT'S NOT A GOOD REASON TO SPEND THAT MONEY. I DON'T. I'M NOT SURE IT WOULD SATISFY OUR CURIOSITY. I THINK IT WOULD GIVE US INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN MAKE AN INFORMED RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWNSHIP COMMITTEE. BECAUSE JUST FOR US TO SAY, WELL, WE DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD THAT THAT'S NOT AN INFORMED DECISION. WE NEED A T LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. WE WANT TO GIVE THE COMMITTEE EVERY POSSIBLE CHOICE. OF WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT PROPERTY. SO AND SO AND FOR US TO MAKE IT RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S THE PROCESS. I THINK IT IT HAS TO THE REQUEST HAS TO COME FROM THE PLANNING BOARD. THAT FROM THE PLANT FOR US TO DO IT AS A PLANNING BOARD. MAKE THAT REQUEST. WE NEED TO HAVE A STUDY DONE. THAT THE PLANNERS CAN TELL US WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD RECOMMEND TOWNSHIP TO ASK US. NO. OKAY I THINK, TONY, I THINK WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME POTENTIALS. NOT THAT I CAN DISCUSS EVERYTHING. BUT UM, THERE ARE SOME PILOT PROGRAMS THAT HELP IF SOMETHING IS DEVELOPED, AND THE READABLE ON IT HELPS THE TOWNSHIP SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBILITIES BECAUSE , AS YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE READABLE AND NOT TO SAY IN PUBLIC, BUT YES, WITH SCHOOLS, RIGHT? WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMITMENT TO THE SCHOOLS AND OUR TAXES. BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN PARCELS THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY. NOTHING IS WRITTEN IN STONE. WHERE A PILOT PROGRAM CAN BE INVESTIGATED, SO THIS IS COMING FIRST TO YOU ARE OVERALL THE AUTHORITY BEFORE THE TOWNSHIP COMMITTEE ON ANY LAND. DEVELOPMENT QUESTION, SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. I CANNOT GO INTO MORE DETAIL. BUT THERE IS THE PROCESS WE ARE. FOLLOWING IS WE'RE COMING TO YOU . AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE WILL SEE IF THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT PILOT PROGRAM WHAT? WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES THERE? SO THAT'S WHERE IT IS. AND TONY, I'M SORRY WITH REGARD TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE ARE CURRENT WITH EXISTING NUMBERS. BUT STARTING THIS YEAR, THE NUMBER YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NEW THE NEW NUMBERS HAS A WHOLE NEW ROUND COMING AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO MORE CO UNITS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA BE STUDYING THIS YEAR AS WELL.
WHERE ARE WE GONNA PUT THESE EXTRA UNITS IN THE NEXT ROUND THAT ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED SO THIS PROPERTY WILL HELP WITH THAT. POSSIBLY SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING A T THE OPPORTUNITY, TONY, HONEST TO GOD, IT'S NOT UGLY PROPERTY. I'VE BEEN UP LOOKING AT IT. THE ONLY UGLY THING IS THAT THERE'S A CONSTRUCTION TRAILER THERE. I DON'T THINK IT'S UGLY PROPERLY.
YEAH, IT'S NOT UGLY, BUT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TOWN AND OBVIOUSLY TO SEE IF IT FULFILLS ANY OF OUR OF THAT. YEAH I THINK I THINK ALSO TONY THAT AND I THINK THESE POINTS ARE VERY GOOD . BUT WHETHER THE MASTER PLAN OUTLINES, UM, A TYPE OF PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENT WITH MODERN STANDARDS FOR, UM RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES, THE THEY HAVE APPROVAL UNDER THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN TO BUILD SOMETHING THERE THEY THEY WANT TO, BUT BUT BECAUSE YOU KNOW LAWS AREN'T WRITTEN PERFECTLY, AND GUIDELINES AREN'T WRITTEN PERFECTLY. WE HAVE TO RE EVALUATE UNDER MODERN STANDARDS, SO I THINK THAT'S THE PROCESS TO DO THAT. AND I THINK THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY IS ENTITLED TO EXPENDITURE AS YOU'RE SAYING BY THE TOWNSHIP TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS A WHICH CAN BE A BENEFIT TO THE TOWN. SOUNDS LIKE BIGGER BENEFIT TO THE DEVELOPER THAN IT IS FOR THE TOWN. AS I RECALL THE LAST THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS, THOUGH, IT WAS FROM THE STUDY THAT WE THEN HAD SOME VERY ROBUST DISCUSSIONS AMONGST OURSELVES.
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THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THE TOWNSHIP COMMITTEE THAT I MEAN THERE WAS SOME PRETTY DETAILED DISCUSSIONS, WHICH I THINK WE'RE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE BUT IT STARTED WITH THE STUDY. AND IT'S HELPFUL FOR THE TOWNSHIP COMMITTEE BECAUSE ULTIMATELY YOU ARE THE AUTHORITY AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SAY WE NEED THIS STUDY. IT DOESN'T COME FROM US. IT COMES FROM YOU. WELL, I. I THINK IT IS FINE. WE SHOULD VOTE AND OK. OKAY, SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO TAKE A VOTE? SO OK, UH, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. SHARING LODGE IT. YES. MONEY? YES. SAYING YES. CAAS? YES, GLOCKLER NO. YES.THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SHERRY. OK, FUTURE MEETINGS. APRIL. 22ND SHERRY, DO WE HAVE NOTHING ON THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW? NOTHING YET, OK. CLAN SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MAY 7TH POSSIBLY POSSIBLY, THAT'S A VIRTUAL AND POTENTIAL FOR MAY 13TH FOR US AS WELL, CORRECT. VERY GOOD DO I HAVE? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVE. SECOND SECOND ALL IN FAVOR.
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