HELLO. WHO YES, OKAY. WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED. THIS IS THE MONTGOMERY TOWNSHIP PLANNING
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BOARD. MONTGOMERY TOWNSHIP, SOMERSET COUNTY, NEW JERSEY. THE REGULAR MEETING. APRIL 10TH 2023 . AND IT IS SEVEN P.M. AND IT IS OUR INTENTION TO CONCLUDE THIS MEETING NO LATER THAN 10 P.M.UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT NOTICE OF THE TIME AND PLACE OF THIS
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INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. OKAY NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUBLIC? REGARDING ANY ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA. OKAY NEXT IS, UH, AN APPLICATION CONTINUATION AND THAT IS CASE P. B 0 7-22. THE APPLICANT IS BPS DEVELOPMENT COMPANY LLC, AND THAT APPLICATION IS CONTINUED TO THE MAY 8TH 2023 PLANNING BOARD
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MEETING. NO FURTHER NOTICE IS REQUIRED. OKAY NEXT ITEM IS AN APPLICATION CASES. PB DASH TO DASH 23. THE APPLICANT'S RPM DEVELOPMENT IS FOR BLOCK TWO OO ONE LAT 10 POINT. OH, FIVE ON COMMUNITY DRIVE. THIS IS AMENDED PRELIMINARY AND FINAL MAJOR SUBDIVISION AND SITE PLAN WITH BUNK VARIANCES APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT THE SENIOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUILDING CONTAINING SEVEN SENIOR AFFORDABLE UNITS AND ONE SUPERVISOR UNIT. THE EXPIRATION DATE IS JULY 5TH OF 23, AN AFFIDAVIT OF NOTIFICATION AND PUBLICATION. IS REQUIRED AND HAS BEEN PLACED WHO DO WE HAVE TO THE APPLICANT? DID YOU DO THIS? IT'S. YES. GET READY. SIX.VERY GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. UNDERESTIMATED THE LIGHTS OF THE , UH, HITTING ON MY WAY HERE. UH CRAIG GENETIC, THE LAW FIRM DAY PITNEY. ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT RPM DEVELOPMENT COURT . THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR AMENDED PRELIMINARY AND FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL. THE BOARD MAY RECALL. WE WERE BEFORE YOU VIRTUALLY, UM ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
APPLYING FOR PRELIMINARY STATE PLAN APPROVAL FOR A 71 UNIT AGE RESTRICTED, UH, 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. AH! OF WHICH 70 WOULD BE AFFORDABLE. ONE WOULD BE A SUPER UNIT. AS THE BOARD MAY ALSO RECALL, THERE WERE SOME MINOR DESIGN WAIVERS AND RELIEF. THAT WAS REQUESTED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION, WHICH THE BOARD GRANTED ASSOCIATED WITH A AH, THE NUMBER OF. THE NUMBER OF INGRESS POINTS FOR THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES BEING PROPOSED AS WELL AS THE, UH, THE AVERAGE LIGHT FOOT CANDLE. UH, AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION IT WAS. IT WAS ALSO THINKING AMENDED FINAL BECAUSE, AS IDENTIFIED BY THE BOARD PROFESSIONALS, WE CAN'T HAVE THE UNIQUE SITUATION HERE, THOUGH WE GAIN ACCESS FROM COMMUNITY DRIVE THE WAY OUR SUBDIVISION WORKS ARE LIGHT ARE LOT DOESN'T FRONT ON A PUBLIC STREET SINCE COMMUNITY DRIVES A PRIVATE ROAD.
SO UNDER THE MUNICIPAL LAND USE LAW. THERE'S A PROVISION THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT OBTAIN A BUILDING PERMIT FOR A LOT THAT DOESN'T FRONT OR DOESN'T A BUT A PUBLIC STREET. UM UNLESS YOU CAN
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DEMONSTRATE IT HAS ADEQUATE EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS AND SUFFICIENT VEHICULAR ACCESS. UH I THINK THE WAY WE INTERPRETED ORIGINALLY IF THE BOARD APPROVED THE SITE PLAN, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE BUILDING PERMIT , BUT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED IT IN THE BOARD PROFESSIONAL REVIEW LETTERS AS A AS A VARIANCE, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALSO SEEKING AMENDED PRELIMINARY WITH OUR FINAL SITE PLAN APPLICATION. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S REALLY NOT MANY CHANGES. UM FROM THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN, EXCEPT OBVIOUSLY ADDRESSING THE BOARD PROFESSIONAL, UH, WHERE THE COMMENTS ON THE BOARD PROFESSIONAL REVIEW LETTERS, UM , WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS THAT GOES AROUND THE BACK WHAT YOUR ENGINEER WILL GET INTO AS WELL AS SOME ADJUSTMENTS. UH SOME OF THE PARKING IN THE RECREATION AREA IN THE SIDEWALK. SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OF ME, I'D LIKE TO GET IN WITH OUR FIRST WITNESS, KEVIN SHELLEY. OKAY? MR SHELLEY. WILL SWEAR YOU IN. DO YOU SWEAR FROM YOUR TESTIMONY THIS EVENING WILL BE TRUTHFUL.THANK YOU. YOU'LL NEED TO TAKE THE MICROPHONE IS WHAT YOU WANT TO SIT HERE AND USE THE LAPTOP.
JUST BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT HIS CREDENTIALS JUST SO WE CAN PLEASE PROVIDE FOR THE BOARD YOUR EXPERIENCE, QUALIFICATIONS AND LICENSES IN THE FIELD OF CIVIL ENGINEERING. SURE A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN NEW JERSEY SINCE 2012 MY LICENSE IS CURRENT. AND IN GOOD STANDING. I'VE TESTIFIED IN FRONT OF VARIOUS BOARDS ACROSS THE STATE. UH AND PREVIOUSLY VIRTUALLY IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD. AND YOU TESTIFIED DURING THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAYING APPLICATION WAS ACCEPTABLE AS AN EXPERT AS PART OF THAT. PRESENTATION. CORRECT. PROCEED MHM ACCEPTED AS AN EXPERT. YES. MR SHELL, IF YOU MAYBE WANNA WELL, FIRST, DID YOU OR SOMEONE IN YOUR DIRECTION, PREPARE ANY EXHIBITS IN CONNECTION WITH TONIGHT'S MEETING? YES BE PREPARED. A COLORED SITE RENDERING OF THE PROPERTY DATED APRIL 7TH 2023. IT IS UP ON THE SCREEN HERE, AND I GUESS WE CAN MARKET AS EXHIBIT A ONE. FINE. AND I GUESS MAYBE USING EXHIBIT 81. JUST KIND OF WORRIED PEOPLE BOARDED PERSPECTIVE SITE LOCATION, OBVIOUSLY PROBABLY SEE THE WINDOW, BUT. DESCRIPTION HATE TO DO THIS, BUT YOU CAN HAVE TO MOVE THE MIC BACK AND FORTH OR ONE OF YOU CAN STAND HERE. ONE OF YOU CAN USE THE MIX UP TO YOU. AH! YEAH I'LL LEAN IN HELL DO MOST OF THE TALKING FROM HERE ON OUT, PROBABLY OKAY? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE A RECORD OF IT. SO THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE ONLY TIME I COULD SAY THIS IS AN APPLICATION IS LOCATED RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IN THE WINDOW HERE, UM, DIRECTLY TO THE NORTHWEST OF THIS BEAUTIFUL NEW BUILDING. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE MUNICIPAL CENTER REDEVELOPMENT ZONE. AND THE AS MR GENETI INDICATED THE APPLICANTS WAS IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD IN JULY OF 2021 GRANTED PRELIMINARY MAJOR SITE PLANNING SUBDIVISION APPROVAL. AND THEN AMENDED PRELIMINARY. AND FINAL SITE PLANNING SUBDIVISION. APPROVAL IS REQUIRED AND BEING SOUGHT THIS EVENING. AGAIN THE PRELIMINARY APPROVAL REQUIRES AN AMENDMENT BECAUSE OF VARIANCE IS REQUIRED FOR THE PROPOSAL DIVISION SINCE THE PARTIAL DOES NOT HAVE FRONTAGE ON THE PUBLIC STREET. UH NOTHING IN TERMS OF THE SUBDIVISION HAS CHANGED FROM THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN APPROVAL THE SAME 4.21 ACRE AREA AS PART OF THE OVERALL 45 ACRE PARCEL VARIANTS JUST WAS PREVIOUSLY NOT IDENTIFIED NOR REQUESTED. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE AMENDED APPROVAL.
MAJORITY OF THE DESIGN PRESENTED DURING THE JULY 21 HEARING IS STILL AGAIN LARGELY THE SAME.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT AN AGE RESTRICTED AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT CONTAINING 71. UNITS WITHIN A THREE STORY BUILDING. ALL UNITS WILL CONTAIN ONE BEDROOM. EXCEPT FOR A SINGLE TWO BEDROOM UNIT FOR THE LIVING SITE SUPER THE APPLICATION IS FULLY CONFORMING WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE MUNICIPAL CENTER REDEVELOPMENT ZONE AS WELL. ACCESS TO THE SITE
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COMES FROM HEADQUARTERS PARK DRIVE. AND A TOTAL OF 129 PARKING SPACES ARE PROPOSED, WHICH EXCEEDS THE RCS REQUIREMENTS TO THE SPACES WILL BE EQUIPPED SO THAT THEY CAN BE CONVERTED TO ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. SHOULD ANY OF THE TENANTS REQUIRE THAT TWO IDENTIFICATION SIGNS ARE PROPOSED. THE FIRST IS LOCATED RIGHT AT THE VERY ENTRANCE TO THE SITE WITHIN OUR NEW SUBDIVISION LIMITS. THE SECOND WILL BE LOCATED OUT AT THE INTERSECTION WITH ORCHARD ROAD DIRECTLY, OPPOSITE OF WHERE THE NEW MUNICIPAL SIGN IS LOCATED, AS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCES. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SIGNED OUT AT ORCHARD ROAD WILL BE SMALLER THAN THE SIGN FOR THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX. AND THE SIGN LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE DEVELOPMENT. UM PARKING AREA RIGHT HERE WILL BE AGAIN A LITTLE BIT SMALLER SCALE FROM THE ONE THAT WAS THAT WILL BE INSTALLED OUT AT ORCHARD ROAD. UM BOTH INDOOR AND OUTDOOR AMENITY SPACE OR PROVIDED FOR THIS APPLICATION. AH! OUTSIDE ON THE NORTHERN END OF THE BUILDING. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY GARDEN. WHICH WILL FEATURE PICNIC TABLES. UM PLANTING ROSE FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO BE OUTSIDE AND ENJOY THE OTHER SPACE WHILE HAVING THEIR OWN COMMUNITY GARDEN. AS WELL AS A WALKING TRAIL. UH FIVE FT. IN WITH THAT WOULD BE ASPHALT THAT SURROUNDS THE BUILDING GOES FROM THE PARKING OR THE SIDEWALK ALONG THE BUILDING FRONTAGE AROUND THE REAR OF THE BUILDING , LOOPING AROUND AND THEN TYING INTO THE COMMUNITY GARDEN. UM THE ONE MAJOR CHANGE IN THESE PLANS. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE A DIFFERENT COLOR GREEN HATCH AROUND THE BUILDING. IT WAS TESTIFIED TO DURING THE PRELIMINARY HEARING THAT BASED OFF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT FIRE OFFICIAL EMERGENCY ACCESS ON ALL SIDES OF THE BUILDING IS REQUIRED. SO WE HAD INDICATED THAT WE HAD A DISCUSSION AT THE PRELIMINARY HEARING YOUR AD INCORPORATING GRASS PAVERS SYSTEM. FOR THE FIRE TRUCKS TO BE ABLE TO SAFELY NAVIGATE AROUND THE BUILDING. WE'VE INCORPORATED THAT INTO THESE REVISED PLANS. UM SO THAT THAT'S REALLY THE MAJOR CHANGE THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE APPLICATION. UM AGAIN DECIDES SERVICE BY PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER. WE HAVE AN UNDERGROUND DETENTION BASIN BEHIND THE BUILDING TO HANDLE THE ROOF RUNOFF. LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING AREA. WE HAVE A SMALL SCALE BY RETENTION BASIN FOR THE NEW, IMPERVIOUS AREA THAT WE'RE ADDING AND IN THE BACK OF THE SITE. LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RENDERING HERE IS A EXISTING DETENTION BASIN THAT WE ARE CONVERTING INTO BIO RETENTION AS WELL. UM. AGAIN THERE'S 100 FT, BUT THE SUBDIVISION WAS WAS DESIGNED TO LEAVE 100. FT BUFFER BETWEEN WEST OF THE BUILDING AND THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST. THIS EXISTING DENSELY VEGETATED BUFFER WILL REMAIN UNTOUCHED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION. UM SEVERAL SUBDIVISIONS. SO IT'S CLEAR FROM THIS PLAN. THE BASICALLY COLORED IN AREA IS THE NEW WHAT? EXCEPT FOR THE ATTENTION BASIN, WHICH IS ALSO ALL THE OTHER AERIAL IS NOT PART OF OUR LIFE. CORRECT CORRECT FROM THE FROM THE EDGE OF THIS EMERGENCY ACCESS, ILL OR THE EMERGENCY SERVICES, I'LL THERE'S ABOUT 100 FT BETWEEN THE NEW SUBDIVISION LINE AND THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH WILL MAINTAIN AS A BUFFER. UM WE LOCATED THE EXISTING LARGE SHADE TREES THAT ARE PART SURROUNDING THE EXISTING PARKING LOT UP THEIR MAJORITY OF THOSE TREES, ESPECIALLY IN LARGE ONES WILL BE PRESERVED AND MAINTAINED THERE WILL NOT BE ELIMINATED. THE ONLY TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN DOWN WOULD BE ANY TREES THAT ARE INSIDE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS THAT ARE THRIVING OR FOR MAKING MODIFICATIONS TO SOME OF THE PARKING AREAS THAN THE LANDSCAPING WILL BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH THE APPROPRIATE TREES. UM. LIGHTING AGAIN, THE LIGHT WE RECEIVED THE DESIGN WAIVER FOR THE AVERAGE FOOT CANDLES ACROSS THE PROPERTY.PREVIOUSLY THE ONLY CHANGES TO THE PREVIOUS LIGHTING DESIGN OR THE ADDITION OF TWO BUILDING MOUNTED LIGHTS ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING TO PROVIDE SOME LIGHTING FOR THE COMMUNITY GARDEN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. UM AND. ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED DURING THE PRELIMINARY HEARING, BUT IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED IN SOME OF THE REVIEW LETTERS FOR THIS HEARING AGAIN. WERE REGARDING THE TOWNSHIPS CRITICAL AREAS. UM HMM. TWO OF THE ITEMS IN THE TOWNSHIPS CRITICAL AREA ZONING ORDINANCE ABOUT STEEP SLOPES OR APPLICABLE IN THIS
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SITE. ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE EXISTING PARKING DRIVE, I'LL THERE ARE SOME DRAINAGE SWALES WHERE THE GRADING DROPS OFF A SLOPE THAT QUALIFIES IT AS STEEP SLOPE. AS WELL AS THE SIDE SLOPES OF THE EXISTING DETENTION BASED ON BACK BEHIND THE BUILDING BY ORGANS. THEY ARE STEEP SLOPES, BUT THEY ALL ARE. THEY ARE ALL MEN MADE SLOPES. THE ONLY DISTURBANCE TO ANY OF THESE STEEP SLOPE AREAS WOULD BE FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE EXISTING DETENTION BASIN, WHICH WE ARE CONVERTING TO BIO RETENTION. AND THE OTHER CRITICAL AREA WOULD BE THE STREAM CORRIDOR, UM, FOR THE UNNAMED TRIBUTARY TO BEATON'S BROOKE. THE EXISTING DETENTION BASIN IN THE BACK OF THE SITE, STORMWATER FROM THAT FROM THAT BASE IN DISCHARGES TO THE SOUTH TO THE UNNAMED TRIBUTARY, WHERE THEN TRAVELS TO THE SOUTH TO BIDEN'S BROOKE. AGAIN THE THROUGH THE CONVERSION OF THE EXISTING GRASS BOTTOM BASE INTO BIO RETENTION. WE ARE INTRODUCING MEASURES FOR WATER QUALITY ENHANCEMENT THAT CURRENTLY DO NOT EXIST. THE WATER BEING DISCHARGED TO THE BROOK WILL BE CLEANER THAN WHAT IS OUT THERE TODAY. THE WATER THAT HAS BEEN DISCHARGED, THE BROOK WILL BE RELEASED AT A SLOWER RATE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DISCHARGED TODAY, SO I KNOW THERE'S CONCERNS IN ALL MUNICIPALITIES, ESPECIALLY HERE REGARDING FLOOD HAZARD AREAS AND FLOODING OF BROOKS AND STREAMS AND WATERWAYS . UM AND THE APPLICANTS DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THIS BASIN TO ENSURE THAT THE WATER THAT LEAVES IT POST DEVELOPMENT IS LESS THAN WHAT LEAVES IT TODAY AND IT'S CLEANER. SO, UM WE BELIEVE THAT, UM THERE WILL BE DISTURBANCE, OBVIOUSLY, WITHIN THIS BASIN TO BECOME MAKE THESE CHANGES, BUT ANY OF THAT TEMPORARY DISTURBANCE WILL HAVE LONG TERM BENEFITS FOR THE BROOK. AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A QUESTION ONE OF THE PROFESSIONAL REVIEW LETTERS REGARDING THE PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH. THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR LOT AND WHETHER THAT RUNOFF WAS FACTORED IN. TO YOUR STORMWATER ANALYSIS. YES SO ONE OF THE MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THE REGIONS OF THE RESUBMISSION WAS WE HAD TO IDENTIFY. WHAT THE CONTRIBUTING YOUR ENERGY AREA WAS TO THIS EXISTING BASIN IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. SO ESSENTIALLY THIS EXISTING PARKING LOT. THAT'S THERE TODAY . ALL DRAINS TO THIS AREA RIGHT NOW. IT'S COLLECTED DISCHARGED.THE WATER IS NOT TREATED. THERE IS NO TYPE OF WATER QUALITY TREATMENT THAT'S GOING BEFORE IT GETS INTO THIS BASIN. THERE'S ALSO A LARGE OFFSITE DRAINAGE AREA FROM THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH THAT DRAINS ACROSS THIS SITE. THROUGH THE PARKING LOT OR AROUND IT AND ULTIMATELY INTO THE BASIN. SO WE'VE DONE A DETAILED STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ANALYSIS OF BOTH THE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE ARE CREATING AS PART OF HIS APPLICATION, AS WELL AS DOING AN ANALYSIS OF THE EXISTING FACILITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CHANGES THAT WE ARE IMPLEMENTING DO NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT. ALONG THOSE LINES OF. YOU'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE BOARD ENGINEERS REVIEW LETTER HE DID MORE 2ND 2023. YES. THE BOARD PLANNER REVIEW LETTER OF FEBRUARY 27TH 2023. CORRECT. THE BRAVE YOU ENGINEERING TRAFFIC ENGINEER REVIEW LETTER DATED MARCH 3RD 2023 CORRECT. IN THE. BOARD LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. ON THE. FEBRUARY 27 2023. REVIEW THAT AS WELL OPEN SPACE AS WELL AS THE OPEN SPACE. UH, REVIEW MEMBER OF DATED FEBRUARY 23RD. 2023 YES, I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW ALL THOSE MEMOS STARTING WITH THE BOARD ENGINEERS REVIEW LETTER. THERE WAS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WE HAD, UH TESTIMONY ON FIRST PAGE. FOR THE 18 COMMENT. 12 CONCERNING THE. OKAY OF THE WALKING PATH IS ACCESSIBILITY. YES RIGHT NOW THE PATH WAS SHOWN AS A LOCALLY CRUSHED STONE. WE HAVE AGREED TO REVISE THE DESIGN SO THAT IT'S A FIVE FT WIDE ASPHALT WALKWAY FOR BETTER ACCESSIBILITY. HMM AND, UH, THERE IS UNCOMMON 19. THERE'S A QUESTION AS TO, UH BETTER AVAILABILITY OF KIND OF SHORT TERM PARKING AND CHECK TWO DELIVERIES, OR, UH, ANY TYPE OF VEHICLE TO BE THERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. SURE SO LOCATED DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING'S ENTRANCE LOBBY, UH,
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ALONG THE RADIUS HERE, WE HAVE A DROP OFF. PICK UP. LANE THAT'S DESIGNATED UM, AGAIN FOR PICK UPS AND DROP OFFS, ANY TYPE OF SHORT, QUICK DELIVERIES AND FEDEX TRUCK AMAZON ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE PULLED UP HERE BROUGHT INTO THE LOBBY AND THEY'RE BACK OUT. UM WE DON'T HAVE ANY DESIGNATED SIGNAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR 15 MINUTE PARKING, BUT WE BELIEVE THIS AREA LOCATED IN FRONT OF THE SITE IS SUFFICIENT FOR ANY OF THOSE SHORT TERM NEEDS. DOES THAT INCLUDE E. M S YEAH. MM THERE'S WITH THEIR FOR AN AMBULANCE TO PULL UP THEIR AS NEEDED FOR THE SITE. EXCUSE ME IN THE NEXT COMMENT, COMMENT 20 . THERE'S A QUESTION AS TO ANY TYPE OF THEN, OR BUS SERVICE BEING PROVIDED TO THE RESIDENTS. UH, YOU KNOW, GO FROM, YOU KNOW TO ANOTHER AREA OF TOWN OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT? YES I KNOW.THE APPLICANT IS WORKING ON A PLAN TO CREATE A BOSSING, I GUESS SHUTTLE SERVICE FOR THEIR RESIDENTS THROUGH DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE TOWN THAT THERE WOULD BE IMPLEMENTING AND PROVIDING FOR THE RESIDENTS. ENDING ALSO, TWO OF THE COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL FOR THEIR, UH, SENIOR SERVICE SHUTTLE AS WELL. CORRECT. UM AND I'LL BE SEPARATE FROM WHATEVER. SERVICE. THE DEVELOPER PROVIDES FOR ITS TENANTS. CORRECT YES, I GUESS, WHILE WE'RE STILL ON THAT TOPIC , ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE DID ALSO DISCUSS WAS REGARDING A BETTER INTERCONNECTION OF ARE PROPOSED SITE IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE FACILITIES HERE AT THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING. UM ON THE RENDERING AND ACTIVITY OF ONE WE ARE PROPOSING NEW SIDEWALK ALONG OUR ENTIRE FRONTAGE TO WHERE IT MEETS THE EXISTING SIDEWALK THAT RUNS ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE ENTRANCE DRIVE. WE WILL WORK WITH THE MUNICIPAL ENGINEER AND TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TO COME UP WITH THE MOST APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THE HANDICAPPED RAMP AND CROSSWALK TO PROVIDE UM , EASY MEANS FOR THE RESIDENTS HERE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS NEW FACILITY. HMM. ON THAT SAME PAGE UNDER THE GENESIS PAGE EIGHT OF 18 UNDER GENERAL COMMENT, 10 NOR ARCHITECT WILL GET MORE INTO THE INTERNAL MANAGEMENT OF REFUSE. JUST IDENTIFY WHERE, UH REFUSE, REFUSE AND RECYCLING LOCATION IS AND THEN THE ARCHITECT AND DEAL MORE THE INTERNAL WORKINGS. SURE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WE HAVE A EXTERNAL MASONRY TRASH ENCLOSURE. UH TRASH AGAIN IS STORED AND COMPACTED INTERNALLY AND WHEELED OUT BY PROPERTY MANAGEMENT INTO THE TRADITION CLOSURE FOR ITS SCHEDULED PICKUPS. AND WE HAD RELOCATED THAT FROM THE PREVIOUS LOCATION THAT WAS IN CONFLICT WITH ONE OF THE EXISTING SHADE TREES THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE PRESERVING, AND, UH ON PAGE 14 COMMENTS 73 AS TO IRRIGATION THAT WILL BE PROVIDED FOR THE LANDSCAPING BEING PROPOSED AROUND THE BUILDING. YES THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE LANDSCAPE IRRIGATION FOR THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING. AND THEN THE REMAINING COMMENTS IN THE REVIEW LETTER. ALL THE TECHNICAL COMMENTS WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE AS PART OF ANY CONDITION OF APPROVAL AND RESOLUTION. COMPLIANCE. YES. MOVING ON TO THE PLANNERS REVIEW LETTER.
FEBRUARY 27TH 2023 GOING TO PAY A JUDGE. SIX OF 12. THERE WAS A QUESTION AS TO THE LENGTH OF THE PROPOSED FENCE. NEAR THE PATIO. YEAH SO ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE THE COMMUNITY GARDEN IS, IT'S NOT DEPICTED ON THE ON THE SITE PLAN. BUT IT IS ON THE LANDSCAPING PLANS. WE'VE GOT A 300 LINEAR FOOT SECTION OF POST AND RAIL FENCE TO, UM, SEPARATE THIS COMMUNITY GARDEN AREA. FROM THE REST OF THE SITE, PREVENT ANY TYPE OF DEER FROM WANDERING IN. WE NOTICED A BUNCH OF THEM ENJOYING THE VEGETATION OUT IN THE BASIN AREA RIGHT NOW SUPPORT DEFENSIVE WAR GO A LONG WAYS FOR KEEPING THEM OUT OF THAT SPACE AND FROM UM DAMAGING THE GARDEN. MOVING TO PAGE EIGHT OF 12. AND THERE'S A QUESTION AS TO THE SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING, WHICH ARCHITECT COULD ADDRESS NEXT COMMENT WAS QUESTIONED WHETHER THERE WAS ANY CHANGE TO THE LIGHTING PLAN FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY FREE AND IN THE DESIGN EXCEPTION THAT WAS GRANTED AGAIN. THE ONLY CHANGE THE LIGHTING PLAN IS TO BUILDING UNITED LIGHTS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS BUILDING TO PROVIDE LIGHTING IN THE OUTDOOR COMMUNITY GARDEN. I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT THE LIGHTING SCHEDULE ON THE PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED AND APPROVED PLANS HAD THE WRONG FIXTURE TYPES. UM THE
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NOTED IN THERE THAT THE COUNTS WERE SWAPPED, SO THE LIGHT FIXTURES ALL THE LIGHTING LEVELS INSIDE ALL THE PARKING AREAS IS THE SAME. WE JUST FIXED THAT CHANGE, WHICH, UM, THE PLANNER PICKED UP BECAUSE IT DID SAY THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL LIGHTS . BUT AGAIN, THE ONLY TWO NEW LIGHTS PROPOSED, ARE THOSE BUILDING MOUNTED LIGHTS. I GUESS A SMALL RUNNING WITH RESPECT TO THE PLANNING. WE INDICATED THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEEKING THE YEAH. NJ USA 40 55 FT DASH 35.UH VARIANTS FOR NOT A BUDDING OF PUBLIC STREET. YOU CAN JUST TESTIFY AS TO THE SUFFICIENCY OF COMMUNITY DRIVE AND FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS, VEHICULAR ACCESS AND BASICALLY FUNCTIONS AS, UH, YOU KNOW, ALMOST LIKE A PUBLIC STREET, CORRECT. THE ONLY THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THAT COMMUNITY JOBS, NOT PUBLIC ROAD. IT'S ACCESS TO THE SITE COMES FROM ORCHARD ROAD THROUGH COMMUNITY DRIVE. AH WHICH WILL IS A PRIVATE DRIVE. THERE'S NO CHANGE IN CIRCULATION, ACCESS MANEUVERABILITY, THE WE'VE AGREED TO PROVIDE TURNING TEMPLATES FOR ANY TYPE OF TRUCK MOVEMENT FROM THROUGH THE SITE. UM AND AGAIN THERE. THE PROPOSED OR THE VARIANTS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING FOR THE SUBDIVISION APPROVAL HAS NO IMPACT ON ANY OF THOSE SITES, CIRCULATION OR SAFETY REQUIREMENTS. HAD WE NOT CATCH THAT THE FIRST TIME, SO I THINK IT'S KIND OF UNIQUE PROVISION THAT THE STATUTE SAYS THAT, UM A. YOU HAVE TO AFFRONT ON A ON A STREET. NOW THE WAY THEY DEFINED A STREET. IT'S ALMOST KIND OF CIRCULAR. UH, IT SAYS A PUBLIC STREET OR STREET ON A SITE PLAN APPROVED BY THE BOARD, AND THE STATUTE ALSO SAYS YOU CAN'T GET A BUILDING PERMIT. FOR A U NO DEVELOPMENT OR HOUSE . FRANKLY I THINK IT'S MAINLY DESIGNED FOR IF SOMEONE'S COMING IN FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT COMING IN FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. THEY NEED TO GET A VARIANCE FOR THAT. I THINK WE VIEWED IT AS IF THE BOARD APPROVED THE SITE PLAN. WELL THEN WE ARE A BUDDING A STREET THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING BOARD SO WE CAN GET A BUILDING PERMIT. AH! THERE'S DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS OF THE STATUE. I THINK IT WAS JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE AND CALL IT OUT AND SEEK AT THIS TIME. AH! WITH RESPECT TO, UM THE BRIGHT VIEW ENGINEERING REVIEW LETTER DATED MARCH 3RD 2023. THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS AS TO PROVIDING THE TRUCK TURNING TEMPLATES FOR THE VARIOUS TRUCKS THAT WOULD BE ACCESSING THE SITE. AH! THERE'S UH. QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. THE SIGHT LINES WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPOSED TREES AND WHETHER THERE'S ANY IMPACTS WITH RESPECT TO THOSE SIGHT DISTANCES WE WILL PROVIDE SET TRIANGLE IS MINTS AND COORDINATE ALL THE LANDSCAPING WITH BOTH THE LANDSCAPE, THE BOARD'S LANDSCAPE PROFESSIONAL AS WELL AS THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT REGARDING THOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO LINE OF SIGHT ISSUES. THERE'S A QUESTION AND THIS IS KIND OF COMMENTS. FIVE UM, THEIR PRIOR REVIEW THAT THERE ARE NOTING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE GARDEN AREA FOR SOIL OR PLANT THINGS. IF A UM, I ASSUME YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LANDSCAPE THAT'S GOING TO BE PROVIDING THAT SOIL OR PLANTINGS TO THE GARDEN AREA . IT'S NOT A LARGE GARDEN AREA. WE WOULDN'T IMAGINE THEY WOULD NEED ANY TYPE OF VEHICULAR ACCESS. ANY TYPE OF SOIL NEEDED WOULD BE FINE THROUGH WE'RE BARREL. UM SO NO, THERE'S NO VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE COMMUNITY GARDEN AREA. THE GRASS PAPERS THERE, THOSE CAN BE DRIVEN ON THAT RIGHT COULD BE DRIVEN ON BY FIRE TRIP. SO WHATEVER REASON THEY NEEDED A TRUCK WITH MULCH OR WHATEVER THEY COULD DO THAT. HMM NO TO COMMENTATE WITH RESPECT TO THE PEDESTRIAN WARNING SIGN. UH AT THE CROSSWALK ACROSS THE MAIN DRIVE, I'LL WE LEARNED THAT.
SIMILAR TO THE NO PARKING SIGNS AT THE DROP OFF AREA CORRECT NOW. IN THERE. THEY ALSO OUTLINE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S REVIEW MEMO. EXCUSE ME. AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN UPDATED REVIEW MEMO FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. IS THAT CORRECT ? THAT'S CORRECT. I'VE LEFT A MESSAGE. EMAILS WITH FIRE OFFICIALS TO TRY TO FOLLOW UP REGARDING OUR AMENDED PLANS AS WELL AS FOLLOWING UP ON THE CONVERSATION WE HAD BEFORE THE PRELIMINARY APPROVAL. IN THE
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SUMMER OF 21, BUT WE'VE NOT HEARD BACK FROM HIM YET AGAIN. AS A CONDITION WE WOULD AGREE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR REVIEW MEMOS AND ANY CHANGES NECESSARY.WE WOULD COORDINATE THAT. AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, AND IN THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS REVIEW LETTER IT OUTLINES NINE COMMENTS FROM THEIR PRIOR REVIEW LETTER. ALL THOSE COMMENTS BEEN ADDRESSED AS PART OF YOUR REVISED SITE. WE BELIEVE SO AGAIN IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC IN TERMS OF MOVING ANOTHER HYDRANT TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION. WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY AGREE TO COMPLY, BUT I BELIEVE THE WE'VE ADDRESSED IN OUR MIND THE COMMENTS THAT THEY HAD REQUESTED UM. MOVING TO, UH. THE FEBRUARY 23 2023 REVIEW LETTER FOR THE OPEN SPACE. STEWARDSHIP DIRECTOR. COMMENTS IN THERE. ONE WAS TESTIMONY. THIS IS ON PAGE THREE C ONE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT ANY TREES WERE BEING REMOVED. YEAH, THERE. THERE ARE SOME TREES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED AS I INDICATED INSIDE SOME OF THE EXISTING LANDSCAPED ISLANDS THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED AND REPLACED AS PART OF THE PARKING LOT CONFIGURATION. BUT AGAIN, THE LARGE SHADE TREES THAT ARE ABUTTING THE EXISTING PARKING ERROR WILL ALL REMAIN. AND THERE WAS A FEW MORE COMMENTS. I GUESS WHERE THEY ASKED THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER THINGS. I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY BINDING, LIKE, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT E 12 AND THREE UH. YOU'RE REFERRING TO POSSIBLY BENCH FEATURE NEAR THE MAIN ENTRANCE. AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND THE AFRICAN WILLING TO CONSIDER THAT. YEAH, WE WE'VE WE'VE INCLUDED SOME BENCHES ALONG THE FRONT ENTRYWAY THAT ARE ON THE SITE PLANS LOCATED ON THE ON THE FRONT WALKWAY UP TO THE UM, THE LOBBY . IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL AREAS THAT MAKES SENSE FOR SOME BENCHES OR OUTDOOR SPACE FOR THE RESIDENTS, WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. FIGURE OUT IF ANY OF THOSE ARE APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. I HAVE A DIRECT PRESENTATION. THIS WITNESSES TODAY QUESTIONS FROM THE BORDER. IT'S PROFESSIONALS. IF WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM OUR BIRD PROFESSIONALS, WE WILL JUST SWEAR EVERYONE IN NOW WE HAVE MR CLAVEL E HAVE THIS BUSY UP AND WE HAVE JOE FISHING. ER DO YOU SWEAR FROM YOUR TESTIMONY THIS EVENING WILL BE TRUTHFUL. THANK YOU. OKAY, UM LET'S START WITH THEM WITH OUR BOARD PLANNER, NOT MICHAEL. I AGREE. IT WAS MY QUESTION. TO MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ACCOMMODATIONS COULD DO THIS. FURTHER AWAY. CLOSE. YOU GET YOU? YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAN INTO IT. YOU CAN JUST WE CAN HEAR YOU. I MEAN, OUTSTANDING QUESTION I HAVE THAT WAS NOT ANSWERED. SO. TO COME IN ONE COMMENT THAT WE MADE IN OUR REPORTER WAS TWISTED SITUATION. POSSIBLY THEY CAN GET A BIT MORE ROBUST AND IN FACT, THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING. SO DOES THE CONCEPT THAT YOU HAVE HERE TODAY? DIFFERENT YOU'RE A SKATEBOARD. CUTE. NO. AND THAT'S BASICALLY YOU. IT'S A MINOR.
RECENT ACTIVITIES. THERE THERE IS A BIT OF A PINCH POINT FOR ZOOM IN HERE. YOU DON'T SEE IT BECAUSE OF THESE SHADE TREES THAT ARE BEAUTIFULLY SHADING THESE PARKING SPACES HERE, BUT THERE'S A PINCH POINT BETWEEN THE EXISTING CURB LINE AND COMMUNITY DRIVE IN THE PARKING SPACES. THAT'S ONLY ABOUT SEVEN FT WIDE. UM, AGAIN, WE ARE PROVIDING A NEW SIDEWALK ALONG THAT ENTIRE SECTION WITHIN OUR SITE TO CONNECT TO THE EXISTING SIDEWALK, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN GOOD CONDITION, AND AGAIN, WE WOULD WORK WITH, UH, THE TOWN'S PROFESSIONALS, TOO. FIGURE OUT WHAT THE MOST APPROPRIATE PATH IS FOR A CROSS WALKING AND GET RAMP CROSSING COMMUNITY DRIVE TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE SITE. IF THERE'S IF THERE'S A MEANS FOR US TO ADD EXTRA WITH TO ANY OF THOSE SECTIONS OF SIDEWALK YOU KNOW, WE WOULD GLADLY LOOK AT THAT. I THINK JUST THERE IS A
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PINCH POINT BETWEEN THE CURBS HERE THAT IS GOING TO LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT IN THAT REGION, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK. DEDICATED TO KEEP OUT HERE. IT'S A FOUR FT FENCE. IT WOULD. IT MIGHT BE PART OF REINCE TO DO SOMETHING AT THE BOARD. THE POSSIBILITY OF SOMETHING THAT BUT MORE THEY'RE KIDDING HERE OUT TO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. USUALLY IT'S EIGHT FT, WHICH REQUIRED TO KEEP YOUR OUT. SO IF THERE'S ANY YOU KNOW? PUTTING. WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. I THINK MAYBE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES. I THINK THEY START OUT WITH A FOUR FT FENCE IF THEY BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR EATING EVERYTHING. THE RESIDENTS ARE PLANTING EITHER, SO IT BECOMES AN ISSUE WHETHER IT COULD BE THE BOARD GRANTS A VARIANCE AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION IF WE DECIDE TO, OR WE JUST COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR OFFENSE, VARIANTS, I THINK INITIALLY YOU KNOW THERE. THERE'S SOME EXTENT OF VISUAL ASPECT TO IT AS WELL. UH SO I THINK THEY WANTED, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO SEE THE FOUR FT FENCE WORKS. IF NOT, THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BACK FOR HIGHER ONE. THERE WAS JUST A QUESTION. THE FENCE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THIS COMMENT? 6.2 IN YOUR MEMO? YES, I THINK IT ACTUALLY IS THE SAME INDICATED. THREE. YEAH I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM. IN THE EVENT OF COMING HERE, COMING BACK FOR THE POSSIBLE GET FROM HIGHER FENCES. SO IS THE CURRENT CODE LIMIT THEM TO FOUR FT. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE. WE DON'T. WE DON'T HAVE AN EXCEPTION FOR DEER FENCING YET. MAYBE YET, UM THE DEER DON'T LIKE TO GO INTO AN ENCLOSED AREA. BUT IF BECAUSE HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET A RUNNING, START TO GET OUT, ON THE OTHER HAND, THIS IS WHAT ABOUT 60 FT. LONG? IS THAT CORRECT? THIS ENCLOSURE THE BUILDING LOOKS TO BE ABOUT 64 FT. 65 300 FT OF FENCE ON THE FOREST SIDE, I'D SAY YOU PROBABLY HAVE ALMOST 100 FT OF FENCE. UM A LOT OF IT IS FAVORED PATIO WITH PERGOLA. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER AREA OFF TO THE RIGHT WHERE THEY DO HAVE SOME PLANTER BOXES FOR THE FOR THE GARDENS. OKAY IT'S NOT A LOT OF VEGETATED SPACE. A LOT OF IT IS FAVOR. BENCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WERE HOPING WOULD BE DEAR DETERRENT FROM THEM TRYING TO JUMP OK, HANG OUT IN THE GARDEN. UM AS YOU SAID, IT WOULD BE HARD FOR THEM TO GET OUT WITH A RUNNING. START ANYWHERE. UM BUT GET THIS THE IDEA WOULD BE FOR VISUAL STANDPOINT TO START OFF WITH THE LOW FENCE AND DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO MAKE THAT WORK. SURE, OKAY. THANK YOU. OUR ENGINEERS. HAVE RECENTLY RETIRED. UM THANK YOU.YEAH WE WOULD PROVIDE AN EASEMENT ACROSS THAT WALKING TRAIL AS WELL AS THE PORTION OF THE EMERGENCY ACCESS GRASS PAPER SYSTEM THAT DOES CROSS THE AFRICANS PROPERTY AND ONTO THE REMAINDER OF THE 45 ACRE PARCEL. WE WOULD CREATE THE NECESSARY USE MINT FOR THOSE
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ENCROACHMENTS. AND IF THERE IS A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED THE APPLICANT WOULD BE WILLING TO ENTER INTO THAT. SO THE STORM WATER HAS FIGHT. YES.YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY MODELED IT. I WAS FAIRLY CERTAIN NEVER SUBMITTED. BUT IF THEY DID NOT MAKE IT AWAY, PROFESSIONALS WILL WILL GLADLY PROVIDE THEM. UM. CORRECT. WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT.
RIGHT? RIGHT IT'S A SECTION WILL WE HAVE FOR HANDICAPPED PARKING STALLS LOCATED IN THE FRONT OF THE SITE? UM AGAIN. YOU EITHER USE CURB OR REAL STAFFS THROUGH RUN ANYBODY FROM PULLING OVER THE PARKING AREA AND OUT ONTO THE UM THE WALKWAY. THERE WE ARE PROVIDING CONCRETE REAL STOPS, UH, TO PREVENT THE CARS FROM GOING FURTHER ONTO THERE. UM THEN THERE IS AN ASPECT OF WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE DRIVES OVER A REAL STAR, WHICH IS THE SAME AS IF SOMEONE'S DRIVING OVER A CURB. WE CAN PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL, MAYBE LANDSCAPING ON THE BACK. OF THE OF THE SIDEWALK AREA TO PREVENT THAT FROM KIND OF GOING FURTHER TOWARDS THE BUILDING. NOT TYPICALLY A FAN OF BOLLARDS. AND CARS. JUST PEOPLE HIT HIM, UM, EVEN WHEN THEY TRY NOT TO GUILTY MYSELF. UM SO WE WOULD PROPOSE DOING KEEPING THE WHEEL STOPS THERE AND MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL BEHIND IT. UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO AVOID THE BOLLARDS. WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. WE HAVE CONCERN. WE'RE TRYING TO GO TO THE APPROACH USING THE WHEEL STOPS INSTEAD. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT. THANK YOU, KEVIN. DID THEY MAKE DIDN'T MAKE HIGHER WHEEL STOPS. LIKE. YOU GET HIGHER THAN YOU START HAVING CARS ISSUES WITH CARS THAT RIDE A LITTLE LOWER THAT HIT HIM EVERY TIME THEY PULL IN, UM MANY LAMBORGHINIS PARKING NOW, BUT. UH THIS CHALLENGE. WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE PROFESSIONALS THAT COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT EVERYONE IS HAPPY WITH. AH AGAIN. IT'S OUR PREFERENCE TO GO WITH THE WHEEL STOP ROUTE, BUT BOLLARDS MADE MORE SENSE. THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO INCORPORATE IT. THANK YOU. AND I BELIEVE THE PLANS OF OURS WILL STOP. WELL STOPS ON THE OTHER TUESDAYS THIS AS WELL. JUST LIKELY. REMINDER.
FOR IN FRONT OF THE HANDICAPPED SPACES CONSUMING A LITTLE BIT MORE. THIS WHOLE SECTION IS DEPRESSED CURB SO THAT ANYBODY GETTING. HOW MANY OF THESE FOUR CAN USE THE I'LL PULL ONTO A FLOOD SIDEWALK. THIS AREA SIX FT AREAS OF RAMP. THIS AREAS OF RAMP AND THEN WE'RE AT THE FULL HIGH, CURB AND SIDEWALK BEHIND. THE ISSUE IS WE HAVE THE WHEEL STOPS HERE BECAUSE THERE IS NO FULL HEIGHT CURVE TO BLOCK. WE'RE GOING TO ANY TYPE OF VEHICLE OVERHANG. UM ONTO THAT SIDEWALK. SO THE REAL STOP COULD BE THERE AS A PREVENTATIVE MEASURES. THERE IS NO OVERHANG BLOCKING THE PATH. YOU DO HAVE FULL HEIGHT CURB OVER IN THIS AREA, BUT AGAIN, WE'D BE WE DEFINED TO ADD WELL STOPS. JIM. UM, I. WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. COVERED. BY COMMON. BREAKFAST.
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TURNING. UNDERSTOOD. IF IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT VERY MUCH. JUST FOR THE RECORD, RICHARD BARLOON. WAS GOOD WITH THE PLANS. OH, WAS HE OH, I JUST HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION. ON THE LEAD.THE NEW PROPOSAL FOR THE NEW FRONT. UH ONE OF THOSE BOXES UNDER EVERY WINDOW AND THE ARCHITECTS. OUR NEXT WITNESS, HE'LL GO TO BUILDING CHANGES IN THE ALWAYS WITH THE BUILDING.
WHAT ARE THEY QUESTIONS? WHAT ARE THEY? WHAT ARE THEY? CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS? WHAT ARE THE BOXES OF THE ARCHITECTS, CHARACTER TEXT GOING TO, UH, ADDRESSING THANKS.
I WAS JUST LOOKING, I THINK THE PLAN IS FANTASTIC. WE TALKED ABOUT THE WALKING PATH AROUND THE BACK. AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER PATH BEING A SOLID PAY, NOT THE PAPERS, BUT UM. LIGHTING I CAN'T FIND THE LIGHTING IN IN ANY OF THESE. ARE THERE GOING TO BE ANY LIGHTS ON THAT WALKING PATH THAT GO INTO THAT EXTEND INTO THE WOODS? I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A BENCH THERE, BUT IS THERE ANY LIKE? IS THERE ANY LIGHT FOR ANYONE WALKING AT NIGHT? SO THAT PERIMETER WALKING TRAIL IS A IS A DAYTIME PROPOSAL? THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTS PROPOSED AROUND THAT THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. AGAIN IT'S STARTING TO GET A LOT CLOSER TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST. UM WE WOULDN'T WANT ANY TYPE OF LIGHT ENCROACHING, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS AT THE ORIGINAL HEARING. WE'VE AGAIN WE HAVE NOT CHANGED THE LIGHTING LEVELS ON THE PROPERTY BE BEYOND WHAT WAS APPROVED BESIDES THE TWO ADDITIONAL BUILDING MATTED LIGHTS WERE BEING MINDFUL OF THAT AREA. AGAIN THAT THAT SPACE BEHIND THE BUILDING THE WALKING TRAIL IS GOING TO BE GOING UP AGAINST WHERE THE CURRENT LANDSCAPING IS. IT'S NOT IN THE WOODS. IT'S STILL IN A VISIBLE AREA, JUST NOT A SPEECH THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE WE WOULD NOT ENVISION THEM USING IN THE EVENING TIME THERE ARE STILL SIDEWALKS AROUND THE FRONT EDGE OF THE SITE. UM THAT WOULD BE COVERED UNDER THE BUILDING. THE CURRENT SITE LIGHTINGS. SOMEONE'S OUT THERE WALKING IN THE EVENING TIME THERE'S STILL MEANS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO USE SOME OUTDOOR WALKING SPACE WITHOUT USING THAT TRAIL WHEN IT'S DARK, EVEN THE EVEN THE PAPER TRAIL IS ALSO NO LIGHTING ON THAT AS WELL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL FOR PROPOSED DAYTIME EXACTLY THAT THE WHOLE PAVED TRAIL WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTING THE SIDEWALKS THEY WOULD ALL BE COVERED BY BUILDING MOUNTED LIGHTS AND SITE LIGHTING BUT NOTHING FOR THE WALKING TRAIL. UM. I HAVE A COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF WELL, ONE. I CAN'T REALLY READ THIS SPECIES OF PLANTS THAT HAVE BEEN CHOSEN FOR THE RAIN GARDEN AND I DON'T KNOW IF MR BARLUN REVIEWED THE RAIN GARDEN PLANS, BUT, UM MANY OF THE PLANTS THAT I SEE. THERE ARE NOT DEAR RESISTANCE. AND THEY ALL NEED TO BE HIGHLY RESISTANT. WE HAD A DRONE SURVEY DONE A YEAR AGO, AND THERE WERE 88 DEER PER SQUARE MILE. UM I LET'S SEE. I HAVE FENCES AROUND MY TURK'S CAP LILIES. I HAVE FENCES AROUND. MY AMERICAN YUAN IMUS HEART, SEBASTIAN, UM I, UM. MY HUSBAND USES DEAR SPRAY ON HIS TRILLIONS, AND NEITHER OF US WOULD DARE TO PLANT A LADY SLIPPER ORCHID. UM, UNLESS WE HAD A VERY DEEP PINE GROVE. UM UNDERSTOOD. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE DEER RESISTANT, BUT MILLENNIUM IS GREAT ACT AIR RACE . SAMOSA, UM YOU KNOW, I CAN. TELL YOU THINGS THAT WORK IN THINGS THAT DON'T I APPRECIATE IT. GIVE ME A CALL AND AN EMAIL , NOT A PROBLEM THAT VERY THE STATE'S GOTTEN THE STATE'S GUIDELINES THAT REQUIREMENTS FOR BIO RETENTION BASIN. PLANTINGS BY RETENTION BASINS ARE STILL ON THE NEWER SIDE. UM SO A LOT OF THE DETAILS ARE STILL BEING KIND OF WORKED OUT, OKAY? WE'RE HAPPY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE SPECIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US TO USE AND CROSS CHECKING FOR. THE MOST APPROPRIATE DEER RESISTANT OR DETERRENT TYPES OF PLANTINGS THAT WOULD THRIVE IN THIS AREA. IT'S VERY TOUGH BECAUSE BIO
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RETENTION BASIN CAN BE WET AND IT CAN BE REALLY DRY, AND, UH, AND THEN YOU GOT THE DEER ON TOP OF THAT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO SARAH AND HER HUSBAND ARE LOCAL AREAS EXPERTS IN THIS AREA. STAND. YOU'LL HAVE BENCHES. ADJACENT TO THE WALK. WHICH IS GOOD FOR PEOPLE WHO WALK A BIT AND WANTED TO TAKE A BREAK, BUT IS THERE ADJACENT OR CLOSE TO THE BUILDING? A AN OUTDOOR PLACE WHERE RESIDENTS CAN GATHER AND ENJOY THE WEATHER WHEN IT'S DAY LIKE TODAY. SO WE HAVE AGAIN. THERE'S THE WALKING TRAIL. THERE'S BENCHES SCATTERED ALONG THE WALKING TRAIL AS WELL AS OUT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. UH JEWS INTO THE MAIN ENTRANCE AS WELL AS THE OUTDOOR EXCUSE ME, THE COMMUNITY GARDEN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH HAS PICNIC TABLES AND BENCHES PERGOLA OUT THERE AGAIN , WE WOULD HOPE MOST RESIDENTS WILL BE OUTSIDE ENJOYING A BEAUTIFUL DAY LIKE TODAY. UM AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF SPACE THAT WE WOULD ENVISION THAT. AND FORGIVE ME IF I THESE ARE ITEMS THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER NIGHT MISSED THEM, BUT THE PAVED AREA NORTH OF YOUR WORKING AREA. UH IS NOW IMPERMEABLE. IS THAT GOING TO REMAIN IMPERMEABLE SURFACE? YES SO ZOOM OUT ON THE PLAN. RIGHT NOW, YOU'VE GOT THE LIGHTER AND THAT'S EXACTLY IT. SO THAT'S THE EXISTING ASPHALT AREA, THE SECTION JUST TO THE SOUTH OF IT. THAT'S DARK IS PART OF THE AREA THAT'S COVERED UNDER THE FIRST PHASE. WE'RE USING THAT SPACE FOR SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THIS BUILDING. AND THEN THERE'S THE SECTION OF PARKING TO THE SOUTH OF COMMUNITY DRIVE. AGAIN IT'S ALL EXISTING PAVEMENT AREA. WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME, UM SOME PARTIAL MILLION REPAVING, MOSTLY SEAL COATING THE EXISTING PARKING LOT AREA, CREATING THOSE CLEAN, SMOOTH SURFACE BEFORE WE RE STRIPE IT BUT THE ENTIRE AREA TO THE NORTH. THAT'S IN THIS UNTOUCHED LIKE GRAY COLOR WILL REMAIN AS IT IS TODAY. UM IT'S NOT PART OF THE 4.2 ACRES OF THE SUBJECT APPLICATION AND WILL REMAIN IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION. I THINK WE OWN IT AS A TOWNSHIP . SO THAT'S OUTSIDE YOUR LOT, ACTUALLY CORRECT. THE WATER RETENTION AREA FOR STORMS. IT'S AT THE OTHER END OF YOUR PROPERTY. UH AND BETWEEN. THAT LOCATION AND BEATON'S BROOKE, THERE IS ORCHARD ROAD, AND THERE'S OTHER DEVELOPMENT. HOW DOES OVERFLOW WATER GET FROM THERE TO BEATON'S BROOKE? SO THE BASIN ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY. WATER GOES INTO THE BASIN. THERE IS AN OUTLET CONTROL STRUCTURE THAT SLOWLY LETS THE WATER OUT OF THE BASIN. WHICH IS THEN DISCHARGED INTO THE TRIBUTARY TO THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE. WHICH LEADS TO PEOPLE'S BROOKE. AGAIN LARGER STORM EVENTS LET OUT MORE RUNOFF THEM SMALLER STORM EVENTS . WE ARE MAKING MODIFICATIONS TO THAT EXISTING BASIN TO AGAIN REDUCE THE RATE AT WHICH WATER LEAVES IT. SO THAT WHEN WE ARE FINISHED LESS WATER IS LEAVING THE BASIN. THEN WHAT HAPPENS CURRENTLY TODAY AT A SLOWER RATE. UM BUT THE DRAINAGE PATTERNS OF THIS SITE ARE UNCHANGED. TODAY FROM OUR POST DEVELOPED CONDITION. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO FOR WEEKENDS AGAIN FURTHER SLOWDOWN THAT RUNOFF AND TO PROVIDE SOME WATER QUALITY TREATMENT TO THAT BROOKE THAT DOES NOT EXIST TODAY. AND SIMILAR TO THE PARKING AREA THAT THAT BASIN WHICH IS ACTUALLY EXISTS, I DON'T KNOW. WELL FUNCTIONING EXIST TODAY IT'S ON THE TOWN'S PROPERTY, AND WE'RE AGREEING TO FIX IT UP AND CREATE THIS. UH THIS NEW ONE IS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND I'LL BE ONE OF THE EASEMENTS YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE IS ONE OF OUR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND THERE WOULD BE A CULVERT UNDER THE UM, WHICH WOULD GROW RIGHT ALREADY THERE. WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING DOWNSTREAM OF THE SITE.WE'RE NOT CHANGING. A LOT OF THE FEATURES OF THE CURRENT OUTLET STRUCTURE. UM WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS WITH THE REDESIGNED NATIONS. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS DOWNSTREAM OF THE BASIN OR ANOTHER PROPERTIES. AND DID YOU? DID YOU CHECK IF THE COVER IS BIG ENOUGH FOR ANY INCREASED FLOW. AGAIN WE WERE DECREASING FLOWS. WE DID NOT DO ANY TYPE OF DOWNSTREAM ANALYSIS. THE POINT IS TO ENSURE THAT
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WATER LEAVES AS PART OF OUR AFRICANS. OKAY? OH HERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION KIND OF RANDOM.UM. WHEN MY HUSBAND AND I GOT A NEW ROOF ON OUR HOUSE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, WHICH CHOSE THE LIGHTEST SHINGLES WE COULD FIND FOR TWO REASONS. ONE WAS TO TRY TO COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE BECAUSE LIGHT COLORED ROOF BOUNCES THE LIGHT BACK. AND THE OTHER REASON WAS BECAUSE UM, DARKER COLORED ROOFS GET HOTTER FROM THE SUN, AND THAT BREAKS THE MATERIAL DOWN AND THEY DON'T LAST AS LONG AS LIGHTER COLORED ROOFS. WOULD YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT LATER COLORED ROOF? AGAIN I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION BETTER FOR ARCHITECT WHO'S INVOLVED IN THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING. THIS FOR THE ENGINEER. ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PORTION OF THE PARKING LOT DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU. MAYBE IT'S ACTUALLY MORE FOR THE TOWNSHIP LIKE ARE WE MAINTAINING THAT? LIKE WHAT CONDITION IS IT IN NOW? AS THIS GETS RE MILLED AND REPAVED? IS IT GOING TO IS IT GOING TO MATCH IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE A DECENT PARKING LOT. WELL, WE PUT TOGETHER A AGREEING TEAM FOR THIS ENTIRE AREA. WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT AREA YET, BUT WE WILL. IT WILL BE PART OF AFTER IT GETS DONE. WE CLEARLY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT, SO IT WILL BE DEALT AT SOME IN SOME FASHION, BUT IT'S NOT ON THEIR PROPERTY. SO THAT'S UP TO US. ESSENTIALLY THAT ENTIRE PARKING LOT WAS USED FOR STAGING DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SITE. UM IT'S BEEN CLEANED UP PRETTY WELL, I'D SAY COMPARED TO WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE A YEAR AGO. UM AGAIN OUR APPLICATION. WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING CHANGES TO THREE QUARTERS OF THAT PARKING AREA. UM SOME OF THEM ARE JUST AS MINOR AS A SEAL CODING. MAYBE IF THAT'S PART OF THE TOWNSHIPS GREEN TEAM TO LOOK AT THAT. I THINK THAT WOULD, UM WOULD BE A LOW COST EFFORT TO PUT A LITTLE SEAL CODE ON THE TOP OF IT KIND OF MAKE IT MATCH BUT PRETTY UGLY AND PRETTY, UM YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA FIGURE SOMETHING CONCERN BUTTON. THE PARKING LOT OF PEOPLE USING IT. AND IF IT'S NOT IN GOOD CONDITION, ANYONE I DON'T KNOW. GETTING INJURED. I DON'T KNOW HOW BAD CONDITIONS INTO THE MICROPHONE. BRIAN IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY IF IT'S IN A BAD SHAPE, AND IT'S A BUDDING THE CURRENT OR THE PROPOSED NEW PARKING LOT, IS IT ANY POSSIBILITY IS GOING TO GET INJURED ON IT, LIKE DO WE WILL BE PREPARED BEFORE WE ACTUALLY OPEN THIS PARKING LOT? I CAN'T SAY YES, BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY NOT WANT IT TO BE IN A TERRIBLE CONDITION. BY THE TIME IT OPENED, RIGHT, BUT I CAN'T PROMISE WE HAVE TO PUT IT INTO OUR CAPITAL BUDGET AND SO FORTH. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU. WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY INJURED OR SO FORTH. AND IS THERE A WAY THAT IN THIS PLAN THAT IT COULD THERE COULD BE A BARRIER. SO PEOPLE DON'T DRIVE ON IT AND USE IT OR THERE WERE SOME NECESSARILY.
THERE'S NOTHING PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS PLAN. I THINK IT'S VISUALLY, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR WHERE YOU WOULD WANT TO PARK AND WHERE YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO PARK UM IN THE SITE. YOU KNOW, HAS MORE THAN SUFFICIENT PARKING, YOU KNOW FOR THE RESIDENTS, OR THERE'S A CONCERN. THAT THERE'S LIKE AN OVERFLOW THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE PARKING BACK THERE. I DON'T REALLY I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARILY REALISTIC. JUST GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES WE HAVE, AS WELL AS THE SHUTTLE AND TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, BECAUSE THIS IS A SENIOR DEVELOPMENT AND THEY ARE ALL ONE BEDROOMS. UM. MHM AND AGAIN, THAT'S MORE QUESTION FOR THE TOWNSHIP. NOT FOR THESE GUYS SO OKAY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL OUR ARCHITECT JOAQUIN POSSESS. I ALWAYS PICTURE YOUR NAME KIND OF MAYBE WE NEED. TO OKAY. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. BUT WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN. DO YOU SWEAR FROM YOUR TESTIMONY THIS EVENING WILL BE TRUTHFUL, OF COURSE. AND COULD YOU JUST GIVE YOU YOUR NAME AGAIN FOR THE RECORD? FIRST NAME IS JOAQUIN J O A Q U I N LAST NAME IS BOZ IS B O U Z A S THANK YOU. THIS IS A HOUSEKEEPING MATTER HOUSE. BEST TO BRING UP HIS THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS THEIR SECOND CLOSE THAT ONE AND SURE YOU CAN'T HEAR YOU. SORRY ONE HAND YOU OVER. I'M NOT SURE. WE HAVE A QUESTION DID, UM, DID YOU THE SAME ARCHITECT TESTIFYING THE FIRST HEARING? I AM THE SAME ARCHITECT AND LICENSES CURRENT AND GOOD STANDING, RIGHT? OKAY I GUESS WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS, IF YOU CAN FIND YOUR OTHER
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QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD OF, UH. LICENSED ARCHITECT IN THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY PRINCIPLE. LET ENGLISH ARCHITECTURE ENGINEERING UM TESTIFIED BEFORE NUMEROUS BOARDS THROUGHOUT THE STATE AS WELL AS THIS, INCLUDING HERE AND AGAIN, MY LICENSE IS CURRENT INTO GOOD STANDING. I THINK I'D ASK THIS. THE BOARD SET THEM AS AN EXPERT IN THE FIELD OF ARCHITECTURE.YES. THANK YOU. ONE IT WAS THE ONLY ONE. I GUESS INITIALLY DID DID YOU OR SOMEONE IN YOUR DIRECTION. PREPARE ANY EXHIBITS IN CONNECTION WITH TONIGHT'S MEETING? AND WHERE THERE WAS THE EXHIBITS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO THIS, UH TO THE BOARD IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING, AND THEY'RE THE EXHIBIT SHOULD BE USING THIS EVENING. YOU JUST IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE EXHIBITS ARE SURE THOSE ARE BUILDING PLANS ALL THESE DRAWINGS 1 10 2023. SHE ATE 100.
1 10 PLANS 20 BUILDING PLANS, EVEN 30 BUILDING PLANS. UM I'M SORRY. 1 40 BUCKS FOR UNIT FIGHT. 1800 FOR THE ELEVATIONS AS WELL AS 18 10. AND THEN I HAVEN'T EACH 100 ALSO MISTY EGRESS STORE 46 2023 UNDER REVISIONS. I WAS HAPPY OF THAT HOME AND THEN THE COLOR OF RELATIONS. UM ORIGINAL PROPOSAL AND THE NUCLEAR FORCES. RIGHT. SO I GUESS, UH. THE ARCHITECT THAT TESTIFIED LAST MEETING. UM MAYBE JUST USING THOSE EXHIBITS WALKTHROUGH AGAIN KIND OF THE PROPOSAL AS WELL AS ANY CHANGES FROM THE PRELIMINARY TO THIS FINAL JUST TO CLARIFY. WOULD YOU LIKE THIS TO BE COLLECTIVELY? A TWO? FOUR. THAT'S FINE. OKAY THE SHEETS AS HE IS IT. AND SO, UM 8 100. AGAIN THE PROPOSAL COUNTRY AT ALL. MR SHELLEY RECOMMENDATIONS ALREADY? 71 3 MINUTES INTO THE MICROPHONE. SURE, HILLARY CAN'T HEAR YOU. UM 71 UNIT SENIOR BUILDING. UM I'LL JUST WALK THROUGH. THE GROUND FLOOR. WE HAVE THE LOBBY. UH UM , AS YOU ENTER, THERE'S A COMPACT A ROOM TO THE LEFT THAT HAS A LARGE DOOR TO GET THE, UM ROLLOUT DUMPSTERS, UH, OUT OF THE BUILDING FOR COLLECTION. THERE IS A TRASH ROOM ON THE GROUND FLOOR WHERE RESIDENTS WILL DROP OFF, BRING IN THEIR TRASH AND RECYCLING, UM, FOR THE BUILDING SUPER TO BRING OUT UM AS WE GO. IN FRONT OF THE LOBBY. NOT LOVE. UM WE HAVE A DOUBLE ELEVATOR IN FRONT OF IT. WE HAVE A PACKAGE ROOM AND THE MAIL AREA. UM FOR PACKAGES AND THEN. A LARGER LAUNDRY ROOM ON THE GROUND FLOOR. THIS HAS FOUR DRYERS FOR WASHERS. UM ONE OF THE COMMENTS ORIGINALLY WE HAD THIS THIS ONE AND ONLY LAUNDRY ROOM. ONE OF THE COMMENTS ORIGINALLY FROM THE BOARD WAS IF WE WERE ABLE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL LAUNDRY ROOM TO THE UPPER FLOORS, WHICH WE DID GO THROUGH THAT. UM AND THEN WHILE WE'RE ON THE GROUND FLOOR, MOST OF THE COMMENTS WERE DUE TO EGRESS. UM WE HAD TWO MEANS OF EGRESS FROM THE BUILDING AS REQUIRED BY CODE, BUT WE WERE ASKED TO PUT THIS ADDITIONAL THIRD EGRESS. UM I GUESS BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE OF THE BUILDING THIS L SHAPE EMS FIRE OFFICIAL WANTED THE NEGRESS FROM THE MIDDLE PART OF THE BUILDING. AND THEN WE ALSO ADDED, UM IT'S NOT ON THIS PLANET, BUT IT'S ON THE EGRESS PLAN. GO THROUGH THAT.
ADDITIONAL DOORS OUT OF THOSE STAIRWELLS. UM THAT'S. THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT CHANGED ON THE ON THE GROUND FLOOR. ALTHOUGH TO THE UPPER FLOOR WANJIRU LAUNDRY ROOM IS 14, FT NINE BY 12 FT FIVE. UM ON THE SECOND FLOOR, AND THEN WE CARRY THAT TO THE UPPER FLOORS AS WELL. UPPER
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FLOOR ONLY THREE STORIES. I KNOW. ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAD A COMMENT OF AN OUTDOOR SPACE FOR RESIDENTS ON THE THIRD FLOOR. WE ARE STILL PROVIDING REALLY NICE AMENITY. UM ALMOST A LITTLE OVER 1500 SQUARE FEET. FOR THE RESIDENTS. THESE ARE GOING TO BE, UM PAVERS WITH LANDSCAPING, UM SOME TABLES AND CHAIRS AND BENCHES. UH, WE'LL HAVE SOME OUTDOOR SEATING. SO THAT'S A IN THAT HAS UNIONS OF EGRESS AS REQUIRED. AND SO THAT'S A REALLY NICE AMENITY ON THE THIRD FLOOR, LOOKING DOWN. UM WHAT ELSE? FOUR PLANES. IT'S JUST CHANGES TO THE FLOOR PLAN.AT THIS POINT, THAT'S RIGHT, MHM. ON THE FACADES. WE CAN GET INTO THAT ON THE ON THE ORIGINAL PROPOSALS. WE HAD KIND OF THESE FAUX PORCHES. UM, IT WAS REALLY PORCH TO NOWHERE ON THE ON THE GROUND FLOOR. THEY WERE REALLY JUST ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN ELEMENTS. UM WE WERE ASKED TO REMOVE THEM, AND SO WE PROVIDED BRACKETS. WE STILL KEPT THE ROOF HAS A NICE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE ON THE GROUND FLOOR. UM HOW MUCH HELP? HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH DOES THAT ROOF STICK OUT? HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH? THREE FT. MHM. YEAH, ABOUT THREE FT. THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENS ON THESE LARGER BABIES. UM, SO THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. DOWN THAT LINE THERE. YES THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE BOXES UNDERNEATH THE WINDOWS AND WHAT THOSE WERE, SO THOSE ARE HIGH EFFICIENCY PITAK UNITS, AND SO THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY THROUGH THE WALL HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING.
WE'RE INSTALLING THEM NOW ON A SENIOR BUILDING WERE COMPLETING AND, UM THEY'RE FLUSH WITH THE OUTSIDE SO THEY DON'T STICK OUT LIKE AN AIR CONDITIONER WOULD SO THEY'RE FLUSH. THIS HAS LIKE AN ARCHITECTURAL GRILL IN FRONT OF IT. FLUSH WITH THE PROPOSED MATERIALS, UM, BUT THERE. AS I MENTIONED REALLY HIGH EFFICIENCY, THEY GO DOWN TO MINUS FIVE DEGREES BELOW ZERO, WORKING AS A HEAT PUMP, AND SO IT HAS NO ELECTRIC RESISTANCE. HEATING IN THE UNIT. UM AND WE'RE FINDING THAT IT'S A REALLY . NICE UH, UNIT FOR SENIORS. BECAUSE. NORMALLY WE HAVE A SPLIT SYSTEM INSIDE THE UNIT THAT JUST BLOWS HOT AIR AND SENIORS TEND TO FEEL COLD A LOT , YOU KNOW, LIKE A CHILL AND SO BY PUTTING THESE ATTACKS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE WALL, UM THAT HEAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT THERE AT THE OUTSIDE, WHERE THAT THERMAL TEMPERATURE IS CHANGING, AND SO IT'S THEY USE IT A LOT LESS, AND IT PROVIDES A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE AND MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE. UM HEATING. WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN? THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS SPLIT SYSTEMS LIKE A LIKE A AIR CONDITIONING AND HEATING KIND OF JUST FORCED THERE, OKAY? SO THAT'S WHAT THOSE GRILLS ARE. ARE THEY IS A THERMOSTAT USED TO IS IT ON THE ACTUAL UNIT? WE THE THIRD. THE UNIT COMES WITH WITH THE THERMOSTAT, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE ZERO ENERGY READY, BUILDING ENERGY STAR CERTIFIED THERE WERE REQUIRED TO TAKE THAT THERMOSTAT OFF THE UNIT AND PUT IT ON THE WALL. UH EASIER USE BOTH LIVING AND BEDROOM. GREAT. SO IT'S STILL GONNA BE A SIMILAR TO A FORCED AIR SYSTEM INTO THE MICROPHONE. PLEASE, JUST BRING TOWARDS YOU. STILL SIMILAR TO A FORCED AIR SYSTEM WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE VENTS THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE. WHERE THERE WERE EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE. IT'S NOT LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO EVENTS. IT'S JUST THIS SINGLE.
OKAY, CORRECT. YEAH. AND THEN REALLY THE. MEAN CHANGES WERE, UM. THE FACADE COLORS. UM OH.
HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE PREVIOUS, UM HERE. THE PORCH DESIGN. UM AND THEN WE CHANGE THAT TO THE
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ROOF WITH THE BRACKETS. BUT UM, THE MATERIAL. NOT THE MATERIAL CHANGE THE MATERIALS. WE KEPT THE SAME. IT'S ALL FIBER CEMENT THE COLORS. UM THE BOARD THOUGHT THAT THE BUILDING WAS A LITTLE TOO BOLD AND DARK. AND SO WE LIGHTENED IT UP WITH SHEETS OF GRAY AND A TOBY. UM TO COLOR UM . WE TOOK. WE DON'T. YEAH UM AND THEN I KNOW. ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ALSO HAD A COMMENT ABOUT THE ROOF. UM SINCE WE'RE ZERO ENERGY READY? UM WE TYPICALLY DO A WHITE ROOF. UM ON THE BUILDING AND WE WILL BE READY FOR SOLAR PANELS. SOLAR PANEL READY? NOT NECESSARILY INSTALLING THEM RIGHT AWAY. BUT WE HAVE ALL THE CONDUIT AND WHEN THE TIME COMES THAT WE CAN DO IT, WE CAN.THAT'S WONDERFUL. THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. YEAH, WE'RE HAPPY DOING IT. UM AND I THINK. THAT WAS REALLY IT. BUILDING MOUNTAINS SIGNAGE ANY THERE ARE ONLY BE NUMBERS ON THE BUILDING AND THEN REAL. THE ONLY REAL SIGNAGE IS THE MONUMENT SIGNAGE THAT'S PROPOSED UNDER THE CIVIL DRONES. THE NAME. IS THERE A NAME FOR THIS? WHO HAS THE WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING MONTGOMERY TOWNSHIP WOULD BE NAMING OR YOU WOULD BE NAMING BUILDINGS WHO WANTS TO STEP UP SUZANNE AND HAVE YOU SWEAR? OKAY MA'AM, CAN WE HAVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? SUSANNA HENSCHEL. AND DO YOU SWEAR FROM YOUR TESTIMONY THIS EVENING WILL BE TRUTHFUL. THANK YOU. SUSANNA YOUR ROLE WITH RPM DEVELOPMENT VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT WITH RPM, AND I'VE BEEN WITH RPM SINCE 2012. YEAH TYPICALLY, WE NAME OUR BUILDINGS. UM WE DON'T HAVE A TOLD US THAT NAMING CONVENTION AND IF YOU HAVE THE SUGGESTION WOULD BE OPEN TO IT.
WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL NAME FOR THIS BUILDING. YEAH. OKAY WELL, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. BUT DO NOT CALL IT PRINCETON. NO. THINK ABOUT IT. THAT WAS NOT ON OUR LIST. GLAD TO HEAR IT. THAT WOULD BE WEIRD. WELL, WE AGREE. WE WOULD BE WEIRD. PLEASE TELL THAT TO OTHER DEVELOPERS HAVE COME IN. EVERYBODY ELSE BUILDING IN MONTGOMERY. THANK YOU. OH, I'M SORRY. 100. THIS WAS THE GROUND FLOOR. THE PHONE. CAN YOU GET THE MICROPHONE? SORRY IT'S ONE OF THESE BAD A V SIGN. UM YEAH, THE GROUND FLOOR. THIS UM , EXHIBIT SHOWS THE EGRESS STORE OUT OF THE STAIRWELL THAT WAS ALSO REQUIRED, UM MAYBE SEAN. THAT'S OUT OF BOTH STEROLS. THAT GOES RIGHT TO THE PATHWAY. YEAH, IT DOES ALREADY GOES THROUGH, OKAY? YEAH, THAT WAS THE LAST OF THE GREAT IT'S FROM THE BOARD.
THE BOARD. PROFESSIONAL REVIEW LETTERS. UH WE'VE ADDRESSED OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS, AND THERE'S ONLY A FEW RELATED ARCHITECTURE THAT OUR WITNESS ADDRESSED ON HIS DIRECT EXAMINATION. SO WE KNOW ANYTHING FURTHER DIRECT PRESENTATION UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD PROFESSIONALS OR THE BOARD. OKAY IS OUR WILL RPM BE THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING AND THE LANDLORD IN EFFECT. YES. WILL THERE BE SECURITY AT THE DOORS? THERE WILL BE A KEY FUNDING SYSTEM. KEY FOB SYSTEM. UM SO ALL THE RESIDENTS GET A KEY FOB. AND UM, THERE'LL BE CAMERAS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING. THE PERIMETER AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS THE PACKAGE ROOM BY THE ELEVATOR. UM STAIRWELLS, AND THEN YOU ENTER AND EXIT WITH THE KEY PHONE. WHAT ARE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE ELEVATOR. LET ME JUST TELL YOU WHY I ASKED BECAUSE OF MY INVOLVEMENT WITH MONTGOMERY EMS. AND SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET A CUT IN AN ELEVATOR AND GET TO THE OTHER FLOORS. YEAH, IT'LL BE STRETCHER COMPLIANCE SO IT WILL BE ABOUT 76 BY EIGHT FT NINE GOOD NICE. HOW ABOUT THE WIDTH OF THE HALLS? FIVE FT. FIVE. THANK YOU.
WELCOME. OKAY? WE HAVE NO FURTHER WITNESSES TO PRESENT THANK YOU. UH WE'VE GONE THROUGH OUR PROFESSIONALS, COMMENTS AND ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THE PROFESSIONAL SIDE. OKAY? UH,
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PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE? COME ON UP. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MARK WELCH . 20 HONEYSUCKLE COURT. MR WELCH. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOUR TESTIMONY THIS EVENING WILL BE TRUTHFUL. I DO. THANK YOU. OKAY? SHOULDN'T TAKE MORE THAN AN HOUR. SO AS YOU GET 10 MINUTES AT THE MONEY THAT AGAIN OKAY, I'LL EDIT IT. UM SO JUST A COMMON UNHELPFUL COMMENT OR SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I NOTICED THAT THE COMMUNITY GARDEN AREA IS FACING IN THE SAME DIRECTION AS THE FRONT OF MY HOUSE, WHICH IS KIND OF NORTH AND TO THE NORTHEAST. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GROW ANYTHING THERE IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE, MAYBE A COUPLE OF DECORATIVE TREES, BUT NO FLOWERS . NO IF THE COMMUNITY GARDEN IS GOING TO BE A GARDEN WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO GROW VEGETABLES, ETCETERA. YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO GET SUNLIGHT THERE UNTIL ABOUT 12 O'CLOCK NOON. SO I MEAN, IF IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO THE RESIDENTS WANT TO GROW.VEGETABLES OR FLOWERS. UM YOU MIGHT CONSIDER MOVING IT OUT INTO THE OPEN. THE OPEN GRASS AREA. JUST THE THOUGHT SUGGESTION IS NOT GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE OLD DARN IT. THINGS THAT YOU SEE. IT'S GOING TO BE NICE AND SHADY THERE FROM 12 O'CLOCK ON, SO THEY'RE LIKE SITTING AT THE PICNIC TABLES. UM SO MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS ABOUT NOISE. UM, THE PRIOR. PRIVATE RESIDENT. IF YOU WILL, THERE WAS A SQUIB CAMP ATTACK AND THEY OPERATED VERY LOUD CHILLER BEHIND ONE OF THEIR LAB BUILDINGS. THIS IS PRETTY DISTURBING TO ME AND TO OUR NEIGHBORS. I CAME TO THE TOWNSHIP. THE BOARD MEETING. SPECIFICALLY TO DISCUSS THIS. UM CERAMIC AND ASSOCIATES. WAS THERE THAT WAS THE TOWN CONTRACTED THEM TO BE THERE. THE NOISE ENGINEERS OF THE SOUND ENGINEERS AND I DIDN'T HAVE VERY MUCH SUCCESS AT THAT MEETING.
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
RIGHT OFF THE BAT, HE SAID. WE GOT HIM THERE IN VIOLATION. SO. CAME BACK TO THE TOWN. IT WASN'T A GOOD GOOD ENDING BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET SATISFACTION. UM, CAN PROTECT AGREED TO DO SOME REMEDIATION. WHICH INVOLVES PUTTING A BRICK WALL NEAR THE CHILLER. HAD ALMOST NO IMPACT, NO PERCEPTIBLE IMPACT ON ME, AND THERE WAS NO FOLLOW UP AS FAR AS THE COUNTY HEALTH COMMISSION AND I'VE GOT OTHER THINGS TO DO, RATHER THAN CHASE THIS AROUND AND AROUND AND AROUND. SO, UH, LUCKILY FOR ME, COMFORT TECH. CLOSED THE SITE, BUT. MORAL OF THE STORY IS I DID NOT RECEIVE SATISFACTION FROM THE BOARD. THEY WENT WITH CERAMIC ASSOCIATES. THEY'RE THEY'RE THE CONTRACTORS THAT THEY HIRED. AND . I WAS RIGHT. THEY WERE WRONG, BUT I WAS THE LOSER. SO I'M HOPING THAT IF WE DO HAVE NOISE ISSUES FROM CHILLERS OR AIR CONDITIONERS OR OTHER WHATEVER THE EQUIPMENT MIGHT BE. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE GET A LITTLE MORE COOPERATION. AND THAT WAS IT.
WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS THEY'RE NOT MANUFACTURING ANYTHING SO BUT THERE THERE'S OTHER NOISES.
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NO, I AGREE. I KNOW I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE BRINGING OUT THE DUMPSTERS OUT OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS GREAT, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THOSE THINGS CLANGING AROUND.SO, UM, BUT WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE ? WHAT DO THEY PUT ON TOP OF THE BUILDING? I DON'T KNOW. BUT IF ANYTHING GOES ON TOP OF THE BUILDING, AND HE TOOK A FAN LIKE FOR THE GENERAL SPACES, I KNOW THE EACH INDIVIDUAL ROOM IS CONTROLLED BY A SMALL UNIT. BUT THERE'S BIG SPACES, LOBBIES, HALLWAYS, ETCETERA. THERE'S GOING TO BE FANS TO MOVE THERE. AND WHAT ARE THOSE FANS GOING TO GO ON THE ROOF? PROBABLY AND THAT SOUND IS GOING TO GO RIGHT? RIGHT IN THE BEDROOM WINDOWS OF THE HOUSES THAT ARE LESS THAN 100 YARDS AWAY. AND THEN WHO DO WE RELY ON FOR? FOR HELP. WHEN THAT HAPPENS, I DON'T KNOW. SO. THAT'S IT SAID MY PIECE. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC. LIKELY. OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT? SO MOVED OKAY ON FAVOR. BYE. HI. OKAY ANY QUESTIONS DISCUSSION ON OUR PART? TALK ABOUT THE NOISE.
SO AS UH, THE CONCERN ABOUT COMPRESSORS AND SO FORTH. REMIND US AGAIN. WHERE ARE THEY WERE? IS THERE A ROOM ON THAT? JUST SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. SORRY THE P TECH UNITS AGAIN THERE THROUGH THE WALL. THEY HAVE A SMALL COMPRESSOR. UM SO THERE'S NO OTHER UNIT ANYWHERE ELSE. UM SO EVEN IN THE MAIN IN THE HALLWAYS AND ALL PUBLIC AREAS IN THE IN THE PUBLIC HALLWAYS, WE HAVE MANY SPLITS ON THE WALLS. UM SO AND THEN JUST A SMALL SUITCASE COMPRESSOR UP ON THE ROOF. UM BUT THAT WILL BE WELL IN AND THEY'RE VERY, VERY QUIET . ALSO, UM, JUST IT WOULD BE THE SAME SOUND LEVEL AS ANYBODY AS ANYBODY ELSE'S CONDENSER OR AIR CONDITIONER IN A RESIDENTIAL HOME. UM FOR AIR. UH WE NEED TO BRING IN FRESH AIR INTO THE BUILDING. BUT THESE ARE SMALL 300 CFM. FANS THAT ARE INSIDE THE BUILDING, SO THERE'S NO LARGE EQUIPMENT GOING HERE.
THERE'S NO CHILLER. THERE'S NO NONE OF THOSE LARGE EQUIPMENTS FOR LIKE A LARGE BUILDING.
GREAT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYTHING ELSE DOES THIS PUT US IN? AH IN CONFORMITY WITH COHEN'S REGULATIONS. I BELIEVE SO. YES, MHM. I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION. WHETHER THIS PUTS US IN COMPLIANCE WITH KOA REGULATIONS BELIEVE IT WAS PART OF THE TOWN'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. SO COMPLIANT. YOUR NAILS. YEAH I WANNA GO BACK AGAIN TO THE TOWNSHIP PORTION OF THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE I THOUGHT WHEN YOU PULLED THAT TOWARDS YOU, YES.
SORRY. I JUST WANT TO GO BACK AGAIN TO THE TOWNSHIP PORTION OF THE PARKING LOT, AND I KNOW THAT THEY AREN'T DOING ANYTHING WITH THAT. BUT IF THE TOWNSHIP DOESN'T INTEND TO KEEP THAT AS A PARKING LOT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY TRUE. BUT THE TOWNSHIP IS DONE IS THINKING THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT AFFORDABLE HOUSE ROUND OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WILL BE. SO THE THINKING HAS BEEN THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY INCORPORATE THIS INTO MORE IF NEED BE. WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE NEXT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH THE NEXT ROUND IS THAT IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR A COUPLE YEARS. SO BUT IF THAT DOESN'T END UP HAPPENING, THEN YOU KNOW, IS IT NOT BETTER THAT THIS HAS A SELF CONTAINED PARKING LOT WITH A CURB RIGHT? BECAUSE IF WE EVENTUALLY GET RID OF THIS PORTION OF THE PARKING LOT THEN. THEY WILL HAVE A PROPERTY THAT JUST ENDS, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH WITH WITHOUT A CURB. THE ISSUE IS THE ACCESS FOR YOU SEE THE RIGHT AND OF COURSE PAPERS IS THE IS THE ACCESS. I THINK WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT. AND I RECALL, WE DISCUSS IT, BUT THE REASON THAT IT WAS PROBLEMATIC AT THE TIME WAS, UM ACCESS FOR ANY OF THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES. BUT WOULDN'T THAT WOULDN'T YOU JUST COULDN'T YOU DO THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS DOWN IN THEIR PARKING LOT AREA? LIKE I MEAN, IT DOESN'T THINK IT WAS A TURNING THE BIG BIG VEHICLES TURN OR OR EVEN IF YOU KNOW THEY COULD HAVE THE ACCESS THE PAPERS COULD GO INTO. THE AREA WHERE WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT PARKING LOT, AND THEN UH, YOU KNOW, HAVEN'T ENTRANCE TO THOSE PAVERS FROM SORT OF LIKE THE CENTER OF THE
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NORTH NORTH END OF THEIR PARKING LOT. I'M NOT SURE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.SO WHERE THEY HAVE THE TWO ISLANDS RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW IF YOU JUST HAD THAT THOSE PAVERS LOOP AROUND AND HIT THAT. YOU KNOW THE TOP END OF THEIR PARKING LOT. I THINK THE ISSUE IS ACTUALLY THE BUYER TRUCKS. THAT IT WAS LOOKED AT FROM GETTING THE FIRE TRUCKS TO HAVE ANY KIND OF ACCESS BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY THE ONE ROAD IN OR THE ONE WAY IN. SO THAT WAS WHAT THAT'S WHERE WE THIS DECISION I BELIEVE CAME FROM NO, I'M SURE THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT. I JUST HAVE I HAVE A PROBLEM LIKE IF THIS NEVER PANS OUT. YOU KNOW, AND WHAT DOES HAVE A PARKING LOT THAT DOESN'T END CORRECTLY, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THAT. I MEAN, I HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM WITH JUST A BIG PATCH OF IMPERVIOUS UGLINESS SITTING THERE, SO, UM, WELL, CERTAINLY, WHILE I'M HERE, IT WON'T REMAIN UGLY AND WE HAVE TO MAKE IT THAT IT WAS GOING TO STAY IMPERVIOUS AND YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY IT GETS FIXED. THAT'S FINE. BUT IF WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO REMAIN THAT WAY, I THINK THAT THIS PROPERTY SHOULD BE BUILT IN A WAY THAT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR THAT POSSIBILITY. I UNDERSTAND. WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THE COST OF POTENTIALLY IF WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THIS AGAIN BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT TOWNSHIP THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ON OUR DIME, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TRYING TO BE SMART ABOUT IT. BUT YET I DO AGREE. I MEAN, THAT IS I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT AS JUSTICE, EXPANSE OF UGLINESS, FRANKLY THERE, SO WE LIKE LIKE I SAID, WE DO HAVE THIS MUNICIPAL GREEN TEAM THAT WILL ALSO SET ITS SIGHTS ON THAT PROBABLY WE WERE PUTTING TOGETHER FIVE YEAR PLAN AND IT WILL DO SOMETHING WITH THAT PIECE AND SO FAR GREEN TEAM, FOR EXAMPLE, DECIDES WE WANT TO GET RID OF THAT. WHAT HAPPENS? WHAT'S THIS PROPERTY THEN? IS A TALENT SHIP GOING TO FINISH THE CURB THERE. I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE WE ARE WAY AHEAD OF. I CAN'T PROMISE ANYTHING. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. I DO.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE WHAT THE ISSUES ARE RIGHT. IT'S GOING TO LOOK INCOMPLETE. I TOTALLY GET IT BRAND, BUT I CAN'T PROMISE YOU WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BECAUSE WE DON'T. WE DON'T.
FRANKLY, NO. I THINK WE HAVE TO SEE A DECIDE WHAT'S GONNA HOW LONG WE'RE GOING TO WAIT IF WE KNOW ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND IF NOT, ARE THERE ANOTHER USE, OR IS IT SOMETHING WE MAY WANT TO LOOK INTO PULLING IT UP AND TURNING IT INTO GREEN ERA? WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET. BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT. I'M ON IT. I DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE A BIG, UGLY GREEN. I MEAN, THAT IS PRETTY UGLY THERE AND I THINK, KEEP IN MIND. ASSUMING THE BOARD APPROVES THIS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE BY THE TIME OR LOSE COMPLIANCE AND THEN TO BUILD IT. BY THE TIME IT'S OCCUPIED, AND CEO YOU'RE GONNA BE AT THE NEXT ROUND, AND WE'LL KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IF NOT WHAT THE OTHER OPTIONS ARE. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THIS SITE WILL BE FUNCTIONING FOR YEARS. WHILE IT SITS LIKE THAT, I THINK THE TOWN WILL BE AT A POINT OF MAKING A DECISION IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. AND WHAT AND WHAT WOULD YOU DO? IF LIKE IF THE TOWN ULTIMATELY DECIDES WE'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP THAT? YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES A GREEN SPACE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH YOUR PROPERTY? WITH OUR PROPERTY. I DON'T THINK WE'RE DOING ANYTHING. OUR PROPERTY IS WHAT IT IS. BUT YOU WON'T HAVE A CURB THERE ON THE NORTHERN END OF IT. WOULD YOU AT THAT POINT SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO MODIFY OUR PARKING LOT. MAKE IT MAKE A CURB, OR WE JUST HAVE IT. THEY I MEAN, THEY STILL NEED TO DEAL WITH THE FIRE. ACCESS THE HAZARD ACCESS WE COULD EASILY RIGHT NOW. THIS IS ALL OBVIOUSLY ASPHALT WHEN SHE PASSED THE LIMITS OF WHAT WE'RE TOUCHING.
IF YOU HAD JUST TO DRIVE, I'LL THAT LOOP THESE AND CONNECTED THESE WE COULD PUT CURB ON IT.
EVERYTHING ELSE BEYOND THERE COULD GET TAKEN OUT. WE WOULD EXTEND THAT GRASS PAPER SYSTEM TO LUPIN AND TIE IN ITS IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EASILY MODIFY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING THERE AS FAR INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE PULL IT TOWARDS YOU AND SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. THANKS PULL IT TOWARDS YOU KEEP GOING. GEORGIA, GEORGIA. ON THE PARKING LOT, THAT'S AGAINST THAT SLAB THAT'S BUILT HONEST. WHY THAT SLAB PARKING LOT. TO THE NORTH. I GUESS IT IS RIGHT. MHM WEST. IS THAT ON IS THAT SHOWN ON THE SAME SLAB. IT IS OKAY. AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITHOUT IN YOUR BLACK TAPPING THAT THIS SECTION TO STAKE. JUST BARE CONCRETE? YEAH PROPERTY, THOUGH. IT'S NOT OUR PROPERTY, NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. I'M TALKING ABOUT YOUR PROPERTY OR PROPERTY. WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING UP AGAINST THAT. AND IS THAT PIECE OF SLAB ALSO YES, THE EXISTING PAVEMENT WILL GET A NEW SEAL COAT OF ASPHALT OVER TOP OF IT TO CREATE A SMOOTH, CLEAN SURFACE AND THEN WE WILL RESTRICT THE PARKING LOT . SO IF THERE'S COVERAGE JUST
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CONTINUED EASILY IF IT WAS LEFT WE HAD ANOTHER USE FOR IT OR SOMEBODY ELSE. COME IN. I MEAN, OKAY, THAT'S THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION. I THAT SLAB WAS SHAPE IS IT IN? I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. THE SOME SECTIONS ARE RIGHT. SOME SECTIONS ARE A LITTLE BEAT UP FROM FRONSTRUCTION STAGING. WELL. THERE'S NO QUESTION IT'S UH IT'S UGLY TO SIT, LEAVE A SLAB LIKE THAT. BUT IF IT HAS POTENTIAL USE IT'S GOOD, BUT ARE YOU GONNA ARE YOU GONNA BE THE ONE TO TAKE IT OUT? THAT'S THE QUESTION. IT'S TOWNSHIP PROPERTY. IT'S NOT THEIR PROPERTY. IT'S NOT THERE IF WE WERE COULDN'T WE REQUEST THEM TO TAKE IT OUT? I CAN. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING WHERE YOU'RE GOING, RIGHT? RIGHT RIGHT. BUT DON THE ISSUES JUST TIMING. IS THAT SO? THE THINKING HAS BEEN THAT WE IT'S THERE BECAUSE IT MAY BE REPURPOSED. THE IDEA WAS THAT WOULD BE REPURPOSED AND BASED ON THAT, BASED ON THE NEXT ROUND OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RIGHT, SO UM , THAT WE MAY NOT KNOW. BY THE TIME THEY'RE DONE. SO I UNDERSTAND. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT EITHER WAY. IS THE QUESTION. WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT THEY WANT WE WANT TO ASK THEM TO REMOVE THAT SLAP. I THINK THE QUESTION IS, IF YOU WANT US TO IMPROVE THAT PARKING LOT THAT'S NOT ON OUR PROPERTY. I THINK THE ANSWER WOULD BE NO, UM, IN PART TO YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER. THIS IS 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM AND EVEN AS PART OF THE CORE REQUIREMENTS, UNNECESSARY COSTS , NARRATIVE FEATURES. UH YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIMITED ON THE RENTS . WE CAN CHARGE WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, SCRAPED FOR FEDERAL TAX CREDITS STATE SUBSIDY JUST TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THIS, UH WHY ARE YOU ASKING THAT? I'M NOT ASKING THEM TO RE REPEAT THAT PARKING LOT OR MAINTAIN IT? MY QUESTION WAS JUST IF WE GOT RID OF THIS, I WANT THEIR PROPERTY TO BE BRIE REDONE IN A WAY THAT IT ENDS THE PARKING LOT PROPERLY RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE ASSUMING THAT THAT WILL EVENTUALLY AH, BE USED, BUT IT MAY NOT. AND IF IT DOESN'T GET REUSED, AND WE GET RID OF IT, THEN YOU JUST HAVE A PARKING LOT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A CURB TO END IT IT JUST TALKING ABOUT THEIR CURVE. AT THE END OF THEIR PART OF THEIR PART, RIGHT BUT AGAIN NOW THEY CAN'T BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FIRE. I MEAN, THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED NOW , BUT I'M SURE THAT THERE'S A WAY THAT YOU COULD RECONFIGURE THAT THAT THAT ENTRANCE TO THE FIRE TRUCK THAT WOULD ALLOW ITS TURN RADIUS AND YOU KNOW, AND HOW THEY HAVE A GROUP THAT SUGGESTING IT HAS TO BE DONE. I JUST WOULD PREFER THAT TO KNOW THAT IF THAT DOESN'T END UP GETTING USED, AND IT'S TURNED INTO GREEN SPACE OR SOMETHING ELSE, THAT SOMEHOW THE END OF THAT PARKING LOT GETS PROPERLY FINISHED. I WOULD. I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THAT, IF, IN FACT IT TURNS INTO SOME OF THE REMEMBER. THIS IS PART OF A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN WHERE DESIGNATED REDEVELOPER SO WE'VE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH THE TOWNSHIP ON THIS AREA. YOU KNOW ALREADY, SO HMM. AND WILL BE HERE AFTER HIS DEVELOPED SO OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS A POTENTIAL PHASE TWO AND WHAT THAT COULD BE, IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND POTENTIALLY BE SOMETHING ELSE.SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'LL BE COLLABORATION WITH THE TOWNSHIP OF ENSURING WHATEVER IS DONE, AND THERE IS SOME COHESIVENESS TO IT, AND NOT JUST YOU KNOW, IT'S A SEA OF GRAY OLD PAVEMENT WITH A NEW PAYMENT THERE. I WAS IN THE KIDS FIND THE SLAB OF CONCRETE. AND USE THE FIRST SKATEBOARDING OR SOMETHING. THAT MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO TRACK RIGHT INTO YOURS. WOULDN'T IT BE LOGICAL FOR YOU TO PUT A BURN THERE AT THE END OF YOUR PARKING AREA? CURB. SORRY. WHAT. WELL, THERE WILL BE NO KIDS IN THIS AGE RESTRICTED PROJECTS SO THERE WON'T BE KIDS FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT. IT'S AN OPEN ROOM. I'M BEING I'M BEING RIDICULOUS. WHAT I'M SAYING. WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO SAY THIS IS THE END OF MY PARKING AND YOU CAN DO THAT QUITE EASILY. JUST BY PUTTING FIRST. THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT THEY STILL NEED FIRE TRUCK ACCESS. DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A HIGH JUST BREAK IT. MAKE. IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT SHOULD END THE CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW. THAT'S IT. NOT THEIR PROPERTY. WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT. LIKE THIS MORNING. NEVER BEATEN DEATH. THIS LITTLE PIECE. YEAH. DO YOU HAVE A SCHEDULE FOR WHEN YOU WOULD COMMENCE
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CONSTRUCTION? NOT ENTIRELY. IT'S OBVIOUSLY DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, BOARD APPROVAL AND THEN, UH, SATISFYING ALL THE YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE RESOLUTION COMPLIANCE, IT'S ESTIMATED 15 MONTHS. UH, YOU KNOW, ONCE CONSTRUCTION STARTS, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER TO THAT. YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT WAS AWARDED LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS TO HELP SUBSIDIZE THE COST OF IT, GIVEN THE RENTS THAT ARE BEING CHARGED. SO THERE IS THE PROCESS TO CLOSE ON THAT FUNDING SOURCE.SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOMETIME, UH, YOU KNOW, FIGURE. BALL PARKING 15 MONTHS FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT 20 MONTHS CLOSE TO TWO YEARS. OKAY? ANY OTHER COMMENTS. WELL, UM. 70 AFFORDABLE UNITS IN TOWN. GO A LONG WAY. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS, UM AND I JUST I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TOOK ALL OUR COMMENTS BACK AND EVEN THOUGH CASH ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO NOW, UM, BUT YOU SEEM TO HAVE ADDRESSED MOST OF THEM, WHICH IS WHICH IS APPRECIATED. SO THANK YOU. OKAY DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO YES TO LIST OF CONDITIONS BASED ON MY NOTES, SO POINTING TO YOU SUBJECT TO, UM ALL RIGHT, SO THE APPLICANT I BELIEVE IS INDICATED THEY WILL COMPLY WITH OUR ENGINEERS, COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. IN THE MEMO DATED 3 TO 23, AS WELL AS THE PLANNER, COMMENTS, RECOMMENDATIONS THERE. MEMO TO 27 23. COMMENTS IN THE OPEN SPACE COORDINATOR. MEMO 2 23 23. OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. 2 27 23 MEMO. THE BRIGHT VIEW, ENGINEERING THEM ALL 33 23. IN ADDITION AS MR FISHING DURING THE KATE ID IF HE HE DETERMINES THAT THE EMERGENCY TURNING TEMPLATES. ONCE HE REVIEWS THEM.
WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN. THIS WILL NEED TO RETURN TO THE BOARD FOR ADDITIONAL SITE PLAN REVIEW. THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE THE REQUESTED EASEMENTS PER THE BOARD ENGINEER, ALONG WITH MEATS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTIONS. AS WELL AS, UH, EASEMENTS FOR ANY ENCROACHMENTS ONTO THEIR PROPERTY. APPLICANT WILL WORK WITH THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO PROVIDE THE MOST APPROPRIATE DEER RESISTANT PLANTINGS. THEY WILL STILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS IN THE PRELIMINARY MAJOR SUBDIVISION AND SITE PLAN APPROVAL ISSUED BY THE BOARD IN 2021. AND THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE THE REQUIRED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGREEMENTS. INDEED, RESTRICTIONS PURSUANT TO THE TOWNSHIP ORDINANCES IN ANY STATE REGULATIONS. SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT HAS CONDITIONS. OKAY SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION? BASED ON THE CONDITIONS, MISS CASEY, JUST OUTLINED SO MOVED SECOND. OKAY, WELL, CALL, PLEASE. ADAM YES. MILTON YES, KEENAN? YES. MONEY? YES, MATTHEWS. YES. ROBERTS.
YES, TODD. BUCKLER YES. CAMPUS? YES, THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND I APOLOGIZE AGAIN FOR BEING A FEW MINUTES LATER. I APPRECIATE THE INDULGENCE AND AS IN LAND USE ATTORNEY THAT APPEARS BEFORE YOU KNOW A LOT OF BOARDS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOWNS. THIS IS A REALLY NICE MUNICIPAL BUILDING.
YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB HERE. THANK YOU. SOUND SYSTEM, HUH? YEAH, IT IS. OKAY I, UH I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY OTHER. YEAH WE HAVE TO CLOSE. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MINUTES TO APPROVE. SO UM, I DO HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. DON'T MOVE. SECOND ALL IN FAVOR.
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